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>Really, the life of nearly everyone improved a bit since Uber entered the city. Except for bus riders and cyclists that deal with much more congestion. And tr

>Really, the life of nearly everyone improved a bit since Uber entered the city. Except for bus riders and cyclists that deal with much more congestion. And transit riders that deal with services changes as a result of decreased transit ridership. Not to mention behavior like drivers randomly stopping in places that weren't designed for stopped cars.

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romwell 8y ago
>Except for bus riders [..] that deal with much more congestion. Seattle might have a word about that. Or two. The words that start with "bus" and end with "lane". >And cyclists that deal with much more congestion. Pretty please, really? >And transit riders that deal with services changes as a result of decreased transit ridership. Right, blame decreased ridership on Uber, instead of all the problems that make people use Uber instead. You know when MTA ridership was at its peak? 1946[1]. It has actually been on an increase over the last decade[2], trailing behind population increase, though. Only over the last two years we've seen it drop a little. Uber has been there before this dip. You know what hasn't been? People getting naked in trains stuck in tunnels without AC[3]. One could think it might have something to do with decrease in ridership. People want to take the trains. People don't want persistent delays, constantly increasing fares, service changes, shutdowns, being stuck in tunnels, unpredictability. You can blame Uber for many things, but hardly that. [1]http://web.mta.info/nyct/110Anniversary/ridership.htm http://web.mta.info/nyct/110Anniversary/ridership.htm [2]http://web.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/ http://web.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/ [3]https://jalopnik.com/regular-evening-commute-turns-into-naked-subway-train-f-1795836994 https://jalopnik.com/regular-evening-commute-turns-into-nake...
- jorts 8y ago
  Cars blocking bike lanes is super dangerous, so I think it's a fair point.
  - romwell 8y ago
    For starters, NYC cycling infrastructure (especially, say, in Brooklyn, which I'm more familiar with) is a joke to the extent where bike lanes hardly matter, and probably should be avoided altogether because of dooring. Really, the advice to cyclists is to stay out of bike lanes[1]. Then, congestion and cars blocking the bike lanes are not directly correlated. It's not like drivers could take the bike lane to avoid traffic. But anyway, I just don't see the situation for cyclists change in any way due to traffic in NYC. City politics regarding bike paths play a way larger role. [1]https://www.bike.nyc/advice/riding-tips/bike-lanes/ https://www.bike.nyc/advice/riding-tips/bike-lanes/
- isostatic 8y ago
  Link 3 -- removing coats? I thought it was hot in NYC.
zone411 8y ago
Cyclists? There are 450k daily bike trips/day vs. 170k in 2005 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/30/nyregion/new-yorkers-bike-lanes-commuting.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/30/nyregion/new-yorkers-bike...). There are new Citi Bikes and new bike lanes. The cyclists seem to be least affected by the congestion, especially if you take into account how most of them ride.

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romwell 8y ago

>Except for bus riders [..] that deal with much more congestion. Seattle might have a word about that. Or two. The words that start with "bus" and end with "lane". >And cyclists that deal with much more congestion. Pretty please, really? >And transit riders that deal with services changes as a result of decreased transit ridership. Right, blame decreased ridership on Uber, instead of all the problems that make people use Uber instead. You know when MTA ridership was at its peak? 1946[1]. It has actually been on an increase over the last decade[2], trailing behind population increase, though. Only over the last two years we've seen it drop a little. Uber has been there before this dip. You know what hasn't been? People getting naked in trains stuck in tunnels without AC[3]. One could think it might have something to do with decrease in ridership. People want to take the trains. People don't want persistent delays, constantly increasing fares, service changes, shutdowns, being stuck in tunnels, unpredictability. You can blame Uber for many things, but hardly that. [1]http://web.mta.info/nyct/110Anniversary/ridership.htm http://web.mta.info/nyct/110Anniversary/ridership.htm [2]http://web.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/ http://web.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/ [3]https://jalopnik.com/regular-evening-commute-turns-into-naked-subway-train-f-1795836994 https://jalopnik.com/regular-evening-commute-turns-into-nake...

jorts 8y ago
Cars blocking bike lanes is super dangerous, so I think it's a fair point.
- romwell 8y ago
  For starters, NYC cycling infrastructure (especially, say, in Brooklyn, which I'm more familiar with) is a joke to the extent where bike lanes hardly matter, and probably should be avoided altogether because of dooring. Really, the advice to cyclists is to stay out of bike lanes[1]. Then, congestion and cars blocking the bike lanes are not directly correlated. It's not like drivers could take the bike lane to avoid traffic. But anyway, I just don't see the situation for cyclists change in any way due to traffic in NYC. City politics regarding bike paths play a way larger role. [1]https://www.bike.nyc/advice/riding-tips/bike-lanes/ https://www.bike.nyc/advice/riding-tips/bike-lanes/
isostatic 8y ago
Link 3 -- removing coats? I thought it was hot in NYC.

zone411 8y ago

Cyclists? There are 450k daily bike trips/day vs. 170k in 2005 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/30/nyregion/new-yorkers-bike-lanes-commuting.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/30/nyregion/new-yorkers-bike...). There are new Citi Bikes and new bike lanes. The cyclists seem to be least affected by the congestion, especially if you take into account how most of them ride.