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I think calling this "equivalent to a palm pilot" is a stretch. The palm pilot was an successful consumer product that was obviously useful and easily improved

I think calling this "equivalent to a palm pilot" is a stretch. The palm pilot was an successful consumer product that was obviously useful and easily improved on. Current AR offerings like magic leap and hololens are super cool, but nothing close to useful. The fact they are labeled as "development kits" makes this pretty clear. AR/VR is going to have a much rockier road to usefulness than smartphones, which are really hard to beat.

fsloth 8y ago
"nothing close to useful" I disagree. Hololens is used for plenty of custom applications in the construction industry. You just don't hear about them because they are pretty much inhouse projects, likely implemented on top of unity (hence low cost and simple to deploy). Here is an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8H_GAm8mM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8H_GAm8mM No consumer killer apps yet, that is of course true. But I wouldn't see AR in any major way in consumer space - just like you don't have HUD displays in a large category of vehicles, even though they are critical to military cockpits.
- giobox 8y ago
  How big is 'plenty' I wonder? I see videos like this that look like fancy tech demos all the time, but I'm hesitant to claim this somehow demonstrates AR has found a meaningfully sized market in an industry. Personally, I'd put money on the number of people using HoloLens outside of dev teams in applications like this being in the low hundreds/thousands, but would love to be shown data to the contrary. Cool youtube videos unfortunately do not really indicate anything.
  - kthejoker2 8y ago
    Concur, as a Microsoft partner we had one of the first 7 Hololens. We made exactly 3 sales with it ... Of Hololens development. Though one was for a training cave that served thousands of new hires a year, so maybe one more order of magnitude in total? But it brought a ton of clients in the door, so mission accomplished.
mcguire 8y ago
The Palm Pilot cost how much at launch?
jkestner 8y ago
Newton, then.

fsloth 8y ago

"nothing close to useful" I disagree. Hololens is used for plenty of custom applications in the construction industry. You just don't hear about them because they are pretty much inhouse projects, likely implemented on top of unity (hence low cost and simple to deploy). Here is an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8H_GAm8mM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8H_GAm8mM No consumer killer apps yet, that is of course true. But I wouldn't see AR in any major way in consumer space - just like you don't have HUD displays in a large category of vehicles, even though they are critical to military cockpits.

giobox 8y ago
How big is 'plenty' I wonder? I see videos like this that look like fancy tech demos all the time, but I'm hesitant to claim this somehow demonstrates AR has found a meaningfully sized market in an industry. Personally, I'd put money on the number of people using HoloLens outside of dev teams in applications like this being in the low hundreds/thousands, but would love to be shown data to the contrary. Cool youtube videos unfortunately do not really indicate anything.
- kthejoker2 8y ago
  Concur, as a Microsoft partner we had one of the first 7 Hololens. We made exactly 3 sales with it ... Of Hololens development. Though one was for a training cave that served thousands of new hires a year, so maybe one more order of magnitude in total? But it brought a ton of clients in the door, so mission accomplished.

mcguire 8y ago

The Palm Pilot cost how much at launch?

jkestner 8y ago

Newton, then.