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No, it doesn’t. The police around here generally ignore traffic violations unless they are specifically conducting a “sting”. I recently was told that this is

No, it doesn’t. The police around here generally ignore traffic violations unless they are specifically conducting a “sting”. I recently was told that this is actually a matter of policy, because someone discovered that cops were using traffic violations as an excuse to disproportionally target minorities, like the old “broken windows” policing days. Honestly, it even makes a bit of sense... traffic is so dense now and violations so frequent that even the minimal effort of enforcement would shut down entire arteries. How do you pull over a bad driver when there’s no space to pull them over? There’s no way out of this mess except for fixing the subway and congestion pricing.

dajohnson89 8y ago
>There’s no way out of this mess except for fixing the subway and congestion pricing. Good luck with that. Politicians have private drivers shuttle them everywhere -- If they took the subway into work, we'd have a much better state of affairs.
cozzyd 8y ago
Easy, automatic enforcement by cameras. No pulling over necessary, fine comes in the mail.
- Eric_WVGG 8y ago
  Sounds great to me. The other day I was wondering why they don't mount traffic cameras on MTA busses for massive city coverage… but the short version is that traffic laws are determined by the state, not NYC, and the rest of the state is ruled by automobile drivers who don't want to vote themselves into traffic tickets. [edit] btw, I was referring to issues like "blocking the box," double parking, parking in bike lanes, generally unsafe driving. Cameras track speeding, which (I believe) is actually the least of the problems we have around here. Generally traffic is so terrible that speeding is impossible.
  - cozzyd 8y ago
    No reason the cameras couldn't fine all those things. Should be "easy" for today's "AI" to flag these and have a human review.
    - Eric_WVGG 8y ago
      I was imagining even lower tech than that: bus drivers would have a wheel mounted trigger, and thumb it every time they drive by a double-parked car or a car in the bus lane. The NYPD would have a person whose job was to load the bus-mounted video, jump to the triggered time stamps, review and issue tickets… I figure they could get through about one citation per minute? Then I imagine the legislature of Albany dying with laughter…

dajohnson89 8y ago

>There’s no way out of this mess except for fixing the subway and congestion pricing. Good luck with that. Politicians have private drivers shuttle them everywhere -- If they took the subway into work, we'd have a much better state of affairs.

cozzyd 8y ago

Easy, automatic enforcement by cameras. No pulling over necessary, fine comes in the mail.

Eric_WVGG 8y ago
Sounds great to me. The other day I was wondering why they don't mount traffic cameras on MTA busses for massive city coverage… but the short version is that traffic laws are determined by the state, not NYC, and the rest of the state is ruled by automobile drivers who don't want to vote themselves into traffic tickets. [edit] btw, I was referring to issues like "blocking the box," double parking, parking in bike lanes, generally unsafe driving. Cameras track speeding, which (I believe) is actually the least of the problems we have around here. Generally traffic is so terrible that speeding is impossible.
- cozzyd 8y ago
  No reason the cameras couldn't fine all those things. Should be "easy" for today's "AI" to flag these and have a human review.
  - Eric_WVGG 8y ago
    I was imagining even lower tech than that: bus drivers would have a wheel mounted trigger, and thumb it every time they drive by a double-parked car or a car in the bus lane. The NYPD would have a person whose job was to load the bus-mounted video, jump to the triggered time stamps, review and issue tickets… I figure they could get through about one citation per minute? Then I imagine the legislature of Albany dying with laughter…