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The goal should be to persuade everyone not to speed in the first place.
by cs02rm0 8y ago
The goal should be to persuade everyone not to speed in the first place.
- genericid 8y agoHow would that even make a difference?
- bdhess 8y agoHow do you persuade “everyone” when the primary deterrent is a fixed fine that doesn’t scale relative to lifestyle?
- cs02rm0 8y agoSo now we're not looking at fines in relation to income but lifestyle? I just think you cannot scale fines in relation to income/lifestyle/anything else financially. You can scale it, but you can't hit people with different incomes, assets, etc. in the same fashion, which ultimately smells of a bad system to me.
- arethuza 8y agoSo what would you recommend?
- cs02rm0 8y agoAnything else. The points system seems sufficent to me for most driving offences, beyond costs. But community service, prison time, curfews, anything which is equivalent and not open to manipulation.
- arethuza 8y agoI wonder of all of the options what the speeder would have chosen - I suspect he would pay the money and move on.
- PostOnce 8y agoyou keep talking in dollars and not hours if the fine is "one week of income" and you don't want to lose a week then you won't speed if a speeding ticket was 5 cents everyone would speed every day... and this is the status quo for the rich since the fine is to their income what five cents is to most others so we fine people enough that it affects them in a proportionate way to make the likelihood of changing their behavior equal, rather than only changing the behavior of the poor
- cs02rm0 8y agoDollars is roughly proportional to hours for the guy at the bottom of income levels. I'm not sure it is for people at the top, choosing which assets to liquidate in which year.
- nafey 8y agoThis statement does not support the argument that you were making in the first place