>"If you mean to say that they succeed because of their willingness to ask for (and make use of) help, then sure." Yes, this is exactly what I mean. Success of

>"If you mean to say that they succeed because of their willingness to ask for (and make use of) help, then sure." Yes, this is exactly what I mean. Success often requires asking for help. Countless times I tried to help students that really didn't seem to care too much, they just wanted to get through the class. (it was required for the degree) But I regretted splitting my time equally with people that just wanted to eek their way through, when they didn't even care, and didn't really need my help to pass, just to get a better grade. Where as I wish I had devoted more effort/time towards students that really wanted to excel, even if their skills weren't great, or their talent was near non-existant. The students that had a drive and need to learn, but still needed help, were the ones that succeeded. Half the students were there for unknown reasons and would play games in class. Try and tell me how much I should care that they have run out of time to get their projects done at the last minute? It's better for them to fail than to get shoe-horned into the next class because I helped them maintain their last minute freakout sessions. This did not help them succeed at school or life.