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I'm in the same, but get the opposite idea. I procastinate in build the language I want (a relational engine, not a DB, a language) always thinking "Is better t

by mamcx 8y ago

I'm in the same, but get the opposite idea. I procastinate in build the language I want (a relational engine, not a DB, a language) always thinking "Is better to let that to pros". But more time I do the same things over and over, more I'm convinved I could abstract my main tasks (around data manipulation) in a simple language: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/8ygbvy/state_of_rust_for_iosandroid_on_2018/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/8ygbvy/state_of_rust_... But the idiot of me think "and the let's use Rust... how hard it can be?". And now.. is HARD! Sadly, Swift was ruled out: https://www.reddit.com/r/swift/comments/8zb9y1/state_of_swift_for_androidlinuxwindows_on_2018/ https://www.reddit.com/r/swift/comments/8zb9y1/state_of_swif... and don't wanna do C/C++. I expect the language to be a glorified DSL that is just about data, parsing, loading data, moving data, converting from this to that and a way better (I hope!) than ORM for interfacing to RDBMS.

jrumbut 8y ago
This isn't my area per se but have you considered Lisp/Haskell (even Ruby) or one of the other languages with good metaprogramming/DSL creation facilities? Or perhaps making a small extension to one of the above, I know many languages have the ability to be extended through modules added at compile (meaning when you compile the interpreter/compiler/runtime itself, not the program) time, or used as a target for a preprocessor. That makes it so it's at least a little easier to get a userbase going, maybe some existing libraries can work with your language. If that's not possible, I'd be curious to learn what makes it not feasible. Fresh approaches to data processing are really desirable right now, since so many of us are working with data that is different from what language designers intended.
- mamcx 8y ago
  >If that's not possible, I'd be curious to learn what makes it not feasible. Fresh approaches to data processing are really desirable right now, since so many of us are working with data that is different from what language designers intended. I wish to use instead swift, that hit a sweet spot. Using other lang (like python, that I loved!) make hard to target iOS/Android. This is the main crux of mine. This mean that I need to re-code a lot of stuff across platforms and targets, because nothing is good enough. I also use xamarin/F# and the integration with android/ios is not as good as I imagine (ie: xamarin.forms sucks. And is damm hard to integrate yourself anything (ie: ios/android libraries) outside it). I also try with nim but is too crude and lack a lot of libraries I will need. I'm also thinking on using pascal, that I also like much, so now is just looking how good could be the use of rust...
jhasse 8y ago
> and don't wanna do C/C++. Give C++17 a try :)
- mamcx 8y ago
  C++ have a lot of nice stuff now, but anyway soon or later need to take from the old mess. If I wanna suffer, I prefer something with a more consistence...

by mamcx 8y ago

jrumbut 8y ago

This isn't my area per se but have you considered Lisp/Haskell (even Ruby) or one of the other languages with good metaprogramming/DSL creation facilities? Or perhaps making a small extension to one of the above, I know many languages have the ability to be extended through modules added at compile (meaning when you compile the interpreter/compiler/runtime itself, not the program) time, or used as a target for a preprocessor. That makes it so it's at least a little easier to get a userbase going, maybe some existing libraries can work with your language. If that's not possible, I'd be curious to learn what makes it not feasible. Fresh approaches to data processing are really desirable right now, since so many of us are working with data that is different from what language designers intended.

mamcx 8y ago
>If that's not possible, I'd be curious to learn what makes it not feasible. Fresh approaches to data processing are really desirable right now, since so many of us are working with data that is different from what language designers intended. I wish to use instead swift, that hit a sweet spot. Using other lang (like python, that I loved!) make hard to target iOS/Android. This is the main crux of mine. This mean that I need to re-code a lot of stuff across platforms and targets, because nothing is good enough. I also use xamarin/F# and the integration with android/ios is not as good as I imagine (ie: xamarin.forms sucks. And is damm hard to integrate yourself anything (ie: ios/android libraries) outside it). I also try with nim but is too crude and lack a lot of libraries I will need. I'm also thinking on using pascal, that I also like much, so now is just looking how good could be the use of rust...

jhasse 8y ago

> and don't wanna do C/C++. Give C++17 a try :)

mamcx 8y ago
C++ have a lot of nice stuff now, but anyway soon or later need to take from the old mess. If I wanna suffer, I prefer something with a more consistence...