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This is the correct answer. What can defend against someone who is resourceful, determined, and has an axe to grind? Not much. Anyone remember Killdozer?

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
>Anyone remember Killdozer? Go over to ar-15.com or some prepper forums and everyone will know exactly who you're talking about, here probably not so much. This crowd doesn't tend to idolize that kind of thing.
- acct1771 8y ago
  You don't have to idolize it to understand it, and learn from it. Same with the Unabomber. Everyone likes to make jokes, but how many of those people have read what he wrote?
  - verbify 8y ago
    I read it and I don't think it's worth reading - it struck me as the ravings of a disgruntled pseudo-intellectual.
taneq 8y ago
Killdozer is a perfect example of how we CAN defend against this kind of attack: Make sure that everyone has something to lose. If they'd just cut that guy some slack, like maybe not destroying his business, or helping to relocate, or anything that left him with a reason to keep being a productive member of society, then the outcome would have been very different. But they fucked him into the ground, until eventually he fucked back.
- cwyers 8y ago
  http://archives.durangotelegraph.com/04-06-24/mountain_exchange.htm http://archives.durangotelegraph.com/04-06-24/mountain_excha... > The story of the batch plant also goes back to 1992, three years after Heemeyer had moved to the area. Heemeyer bought his two acres from the Resolution Trust Corp., the federal agency set up to handle the assets of failed savings and loan institutions. He bought the two acres for $42,000 but later agreed to sell it to the Docheff family, which wanted the property for a concrete batch plant, for $250,000. They agreed, but then he wanted $375,000 and at some later point wanted a deal worth approximately $1 million. All of this was well before the rezoning proposal hit town hall. He got a quarter of a million for land he bought for $40k. That's hardly fucked into the ground.
  - JauntyHatAngle 8y ago
    Sure, but it's more that he felt he had no power and wanted to invert that powerlessness. The (afaik) plan started after they repeatedly denied him the ability to create his own path to his property, and hit him with fines etc due to a forced rezoning. The guy (apparently) tried to negotiate and got hung out to dry a bit. Don't know the exact details of whether they were in the right to do so, but the point is the guy felt like he had his back against the wall and had nothing left to live for. Not condoning the guys actions though.
  - icantdrive55 8y ago
    1. Why does it matter if the wanted more for his land? That's how the wealthy keep wealthy. The aim of most of you on here? 2. So many municipalities are indifferent fee monsters, whom know they have the power to ruin your life/livelyhood with a "no" vote. In my town, it's $1500 for a variance. They never approve variances, but happily take money. The wealthy, with lawyers, do seem to get what they want. The power of the average town hall is out of control in America. Building codes have gone beyond safety. Fees for anything seem to be pulled out of the air, or they use some big city as a example. 3. There's a lot I don't know about the story, but going up against a town council is daunting. They know they have the power. My town seems to go out of their way to pass ordances that do nothing but give authorities more things to fee, and fine, or say no to. Hell, this guy once cane home from trip, and saw a cop in a cherry picker taking down his political sign on the side of his office building. He was livid. He sued the town because he was a lawyer. He then ran for town council, and won. Nothing has changed. He votes opposite to the the other egos, but he is only one person.
sizzle 8y ago
Never heard of killdozer, thanks for sharing!
baud147258 8y ago
You don't need so much work to make an impact, a truck is enough.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

>Anyone remember Killdozer? Go over to ar-15.com or some prepper forums and everyone will know exactly who you're talking about, here probably not so much. This crowd doesn't tend to idolize that kind of thing.

acct1771 8y ago
You don't have to idolize it to understand it, and learn from it. Same with the Unabomber. Everyone likes to make jokes, but how many of those people have read what he wrote?
- verbify 8y ago
  I read it and I don't think it's worth reading - it struck me as the ravings of a disgruntled pseudo-intellectual.

taneq 8y ago

Killdozer is a perfect example of how we CAN defend against this kind of attack: Make sure that everyone has something to lose. If they'd just cut that guy some slack, like maybe not destroying his business, or helping to relocate, or anything that left him with a reason to keep being a productive member of society, then the outcome would have been very different. But they fucked him into the ground, until eventually he fucked back.

cwyers 8y ago
http://archives.durangotelegraph.com/04-06-24/mountain_exchange.htm http://archives.durangotelegraph.com/04-06-24/mountain_excha... > The story of the batch plant also goes back to 1992, three years after Heemeyer had moved to the area. Heemeyer bought his two acres from the Resolution Trust Corp., the federal agency set up to handle the assets of failed savings and loan institutions. He bought the two acres for $42,000 but later agreed to sell it to the Docheff family, which wanted the property for a concrete batch plant, for $250,000. They agreed, but then he wanted $375,000 and at some later point wanted a deal worth approximately $1 million. All of this was well before the rezoning proposal hit town hall. He got a quarter of a million for land he bought for $40k. That's hardly fucked into the ground.
- JauntyHatAngle 8y ago
  Sure, but it's more that he felt he had no power and wanted to invert that powerlessness. The (afaik) plan started after they repeatedly denied him the ability to create his own path to his property, and hit him with fines etc due to a forced rezoning. The guy (apparently) tried to negotiate and got hung out to dry a bit. Don't know the exact details of whether they were in the right to do so, but the point is the guy felt like he had his back against the wall and had nothing left to live for. Not condoning the guys actions though.
- icantdrive55 8y ago
  1. Why does it matter if the wanted more for his land? That's how the wealthy keep wealthy. The aim of most of you on here? 2. So many municipalities are indifferent fee monsters, whom know they have the power to ruin your life/livelyhood with a "no" vote. In my town, it's $1500 for a variance. They never approve variances, but happily take money. The wealthy, with lawyers, do seem to get what they want. The power of the average town hall is out of control in America. Building codes have gone beyond safety. Fees for anything seem to be pulled out of the air, or they use some big city as a example. 3. There's a lot I don't know about the story, but going up against a town council is daunting. They know they have the power. My town seems to go out of their way to pass ordances that do nothing but give authorities more things to fee, and fine, or say no to. Hell, this guy once cane home from trip, and saw a cop in a cherry picker taking down his political sign on the side of his office building. He was livid. He sued the town because he was a lawyer. He then ran for town council, and won. Nothing has changed. He votes opposite to the the other egos, but he is only one person.

sizzle 8y ago

Never heard of killdozer, thanks for sharing!

baud147258 8y ago

You don't need so much work to make an impact, a truck is enough.