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I make 75 to 150 per hour on upwork. The biggest thing I find is a lot of clients are uncomfortable with a 150 per hour contract, but very happy about a fixed p

I make 75 to 150 per hour on upwork. The biggest thing I find is a lot of clients are uncomfortable with a 150 per hour contract, but very happy about a fixed price 3k project that takes me 20 to 25 hours. I have to be pretty diligent about thinking through how long it will take but it works out. Additionally, I've gotten multiple clients with constant work. Was getting paid 8k per month for about 20hrs a week. They've scaled back a bit so its 5k for about 14 hrs a week now. Not all clients are good clients though. Still figuring out how to interview them up top.

lemonghost 8y ago
What kind of work are you doing? If you don't mind my asking...
- sidlls 8y ago
  He's an outlier at best. Just search through the listings: the vast majority of them are extremely low paying jobs with vague or outlandish requirements.
  - gamerDude 8y ago
    This is most definitely true. Most aren't great. But I need to land a couple jobs a month and there are ~250 new a day in looking for US Devs only. Even at 1% thats 2-3 relevant decent jobs a day. And when I last checked I get about a 40% response rate to proposals and ~25% of those convert to doing the project. I probably apply to about 20 jobs a month and each initial proposal takes 10 or so minutes. Which seems about right since they give you "proposal" credits each month and I've never run out. At the end of the day, I'm only spending a few hours on cold sales per month.
  - lemonghost 8y ago
    Back when they were oDesk, I lived in a remote area with no technology jobs. I ended up working for oDesk for a 6 mo stint (Actually for oDesk not a third party). So I'm familiar with the ecosystem. I was just wondering if it was web dev or something more specialized.
  - jasonkester 8y ago
    You want to be an outlier on sites like that. You need to be. The median developer on a freelance site is correctly priced at $9/hr, and there are thousands of options at that price point. Your job is to signal that you are not one of them, and that you are capable of actually completing software projects. A $150/hr bill rate is a good way of doing that. You want your client’s decision to be whether to hope for the best with one of those Lowball bids that inspire zero confidence, or whether to go with the expensive guy who will at least get the thing built.
- gamerDude 8y ago
  I build websites and apps. Nothing crazy, but it can be a lot of fun working with lots of new people trying to better their business through tech or start something new.

lemonghost 8y ago

What kind of work are you doing? If you don't mind my asking...

sidlls 8y ago
He's an outlier at best. Just search through the listings: the vast majority of them are extremely low paying jobs with vague or outlandish requirements.
- gamerDude 8y ago
  This is most definitely true. Most aren't great. But I need to land a couple jobs a month and there are ~250 new a day in looking for US Devs only. Even at 1% thats 2-3 relevant decent jobs a day. And when I last checked I get about a 40% response rate to proposals and ~25% of those convert to doing the project. I probably apply to about 20 jobs a month and each initial proposal takes 10 or so minutes. Which seems about right since they give you "proposal" credits each month and I've never run out. At the end of the day, I'm only spending a few hours on cold sales per month.
- lemonghost 8y ago
  Back when they were oDesk, I lived in a remote area with no technology jobs. I ended up working for oDesk for a 6 mo stint (Actually for oDesk not a third party). So I'm familiar with the ecosystem. I was just wondering if it was web dev or something more specialized.
- jasonkester 8y ago
  You want to be an outlier on sites like that. You need to be. The median developer on a freelance site is correctly priced at $9/hr, and there are thousands of options at that price point. Your job is to signal that you are not one of them, and that you are capable of actually completing software projects. A $150/hr bill rate is a good way of doing that. You want your client’s decision to be whether to hope for the best with one of those Lowball bids that inspire zero confidence, or whether to go with the expensive guy who will at least get the thing built.
gamerDude 8y ago
I build websites and apps. Nothing crazy, but it can be a lot of fun working with lots of new people trying to better their business through tech or start something new.