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Not to shamelessly plug, but this Upwork monolith (and the general sub-optimized gig economy right now) is harmful not just for the freelancers themselves, but

Not to shamelessly plug, but this Upwork monolith (and the general sub-optimized gig economy right now) is harmful not just for the freelancers themselves, but also the clients (from a price optimization perspective). We're trying to solve it with a blind marketplace model at ContentFly (http://contentfly.co/ http://contentfly.co/)

AngeloAnolin 8y ago
Would you care to elaborate how you see the Upwork Monolith is trending to become harmful to freelancers? It would be nice to see your thought on this. I'd like to see a more balanced Upwork type of freelance work, where perhaps a lot more people are given the chance to participate through quality, rather than quantity.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  I think that's why it is harmful: it's basically a race to the bottom, and requires unsustainable prices to get any work.
- riffraff 8y ago
  There are different players in the remote talent space, and some definitely focus on quality Vs quantity, Upwork is just not one of those
slig 8y ago
I've been looking for a service like yours. Are all your writers native speakers? They work "in house" or they're contracted? Thanks
- cryoshon 8y ago
  this guy hasn't replied yet, so i'll bite. i can probably help you find what you're looking for. shoot me an email (it's listed on my profile) and we can chat.
- naeemtee 8y ago
  Sorry for the late reply - they're contracted, and primarily native speakers from North America :)
heyyyouu 8y ago
I just looked at your home page and that just seems incredible to promise to your clients. Do you actually have writers taking this gig? I know of no professional copy (or other) writers that would write unlimited articles for $250 a month, esp. "on demand" and "in brand tone." Not to mention all the back and forth that goes with client writing. Yes, your clients may get articles, but not quality articles (or even ones that read like they've been written by native English speakers or people who understand the topic). And if the marketing person has to rewrite everything, what's the point in buying it in the first place?
cryoshon 8y ago
you're marketing upwork as harmful for the freelancers, but then you offer writers 5 cents per word, according to https://insertly.typeform.com/to/qr6pHF https://insertly.typeform.com/to/qr6pHF. for standard quality work on any kind of topic requiring any kind of finesse, at least 10 cents per word is standard. you can easily pick up these arrangements at the same throughput (1k words / week), too. so, where's the value for freelancers? looks like you are advocating that you aren't as big of a rip off for them -- yet you're still paying 50% lower than market rate. reprehensible.

AngeloAnolin 8y ago

Would you care to elaborate how you see the Upwork Monolith is trending to become harmful to freelancers? It would be nice to see your thought on this. I'd like to see a more balanced Upwork type of freelance work, where perhaps a lot more people are given the chance to participate through quality, rather than quantity.

s73v3r_ 8y ago
I think that's why it is harmful: it's basically a race to the bottom, and requires unsustainable prices to get any work.
riffraff 8y ago
There are different players in the remote talent space, and some definitely focus on quality Vs quantity, Upwork is just not one of those

slig 8y ago

I've been looking for a service like yours. Are all your writers native speakers? They work "in house" or they're contracted? Thanks

cryoshon 8y ago
this guy hasn't replied yet, so i'll bite. i can probably help you find what you're looking for. shoot me an email (it's listed on my profile) and we can chat.
naeemtee 8y ago
Sorry for the late reply - they're contracted, and primarily native speakers from North America :)

heyyyouu 8y ago

I just looked at your home page and that just seems incredible to promise to your clients. Do you actually have writers taking this gig? I know of no professional copy (or other) writers that would write unlimited articles for $250 a month, esp. "on demand" and "in brand tone." Not to mention all the back and forth that goes with client writing. Yes, your clients may get articles, but not quality articles (or even ones that read like they've been written by native English speakers or people who understand the topic). And if the marketing person has to rewrite everything, what's the point in buying it in the first place?

cryoshon 8y ago

you're marketing upwork as harmful for the freelancers, but then you offer writers 5 cents per word, according to https://insertly.typeform.com/to/qr6pHF https://insertly.typeform.com/to/qr6pHF. for standard quality work on any kind of topic requiring any kind of finesse, at least 10 cents per word is standard. you can easily pick up these arrangements at the same throughput (1k words / week), too. so, where's the value for freelancers? looks like you are advocating that you aren't as big of a rip off for them -- yet you're still paying 50% lower than market rate. reprehensible.