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2010 Nobel Prize for Peace Awarded to Liu Xiaobo
- ars 16y agoIs the linked website real? "Photo: Wikidemia Commons" ?? This link may be more informative: http://news.google.com/news/more?ncl=dbvIvqx2eu3bnMMiDfa9ho_irbCyM http://news.google.com/news/more?ncl=dbvIvqx2eu3bnMMiDfa9ho_... China is going to be really mad! I hope they don't harm him for this. I guess the world is watching - now, but later? And secret less noticeable stuff? Anyone know if he agreed to accept the prize?
- user24 16y agoI don't think one spleling mistake is enough to condemn a site as fake. It's clearly legitimate; highest rank on google for "nobel", listed on wikipedia as the official site, etc etc etc
- ars 16y agoIt wasn't the spelling mistake, it was the complete lack of content. I would expect more of a writeup of why they they are giving it to him, etc, etc. The spelling mistake really caught my eye though - it just seemed unprofessional. It's just not what you expect when you hear "Nobel prize".
- dagw 16y agoThe peace prize is awarded by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, and not the 'normal' Nobel Institute. The official site for the peace prize is at nobelpeaceprize.org and the official announcement is at http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/announce-2010/ http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/announce-2010/
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- marte 16y agoIt's there, the UI just obscures it. It's actually an accordion and when you click "The Nobel Peace Prize 2010" tab you can see more like the "Press Release". Regarding the typo: it happens all the time to all kinds of sites.
- henrikschroder 16y agoWhat do you mean lack of content? Here's the press release: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2010/press.html http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2010/pres... Here's the video of the announcement: http://nobelprize.org/mediaplayer/index.php?id=1373 http://nobelprize.org/mediaplayer/index.php?id=1373
- hugh3 16y agoThat was pretty well hidden. You have to click on the small grey-on-grey text that says "Nobel Peace Prize 2010" then the even tinier grey-on-grey text that says "Press Release" just to see who the hell this guy is. Go straight to the page and you see his name, his photo, and a bunch of text in Chinese (which I now see are comments).
- geirr 16y agoAccording to Norwegian newspapers, he probably doesn't even know that he was nominated. The Nobel Institute have asked the Chinese government to tell Liu Xiaobo about the prize. Liu Xiaobos wife says the Chinese police have allowed her to tell her husband about the prize on Saturday.
- russellallen 16y agoCongratulations to Mr Liu - his imprisonment remains a sign of how far China has yet to travel.
- russellallen 16y agohttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/11/china-liu-xiaobo-free-speech http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/11/china-li... Here is the statement Mr Liu made to the court when being sentenced: I hope to be the last victim of China's endless literary inquisition, and that after this no one else will ever be jailed for their speech. Freedom of expression is the basis of human rights, the source of humanity and the mother of truth. To block freedom of speech is to trample on human rights, to strangle humanity and to suppress the truth.
- razin 16y agoApparently, China blacked out both CNN and BBC when the announcement was made (http://twitter.com/joCNN/status/26731788647 http://twitter.com/joCNN/status/26731788647).
- nkassis 16y agoI wonder what a google search would return.
- mbreese 16y agogoogle.com.hk has the prize winner listed as the third link with the terms "nobel peace prize 2010". Google.cn still redirects to google.com.hk for searching. http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&biw=1824&bih=1293&q=nobel+peace+prize+2010&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CzfX-GDuvTMjOApSEygTtsoWHBQAAAKoEBU_QIu0a http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&b...
- jph98 16y agoBaidu also has search results relating to the subject: http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=Liu+Xiaobo&n=2 http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=Liu+Xiaobo&n=2
- sasvari 16y agoIt will be interesting to see whether China is going to follow through with their threat to downgrade their political relations with Norway now.
- lovskogen 16y agoCould you elaborate? I live in Norway, but isn't known to the China-Norway political relations.
- sasvari 16y agoThe director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute says a high-ranking Chinese official has warned him that giving the peace prize this year to a Chinese dissident would harm relations between Norway and China. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iAekET4T1D_vzDMN4JW_xZyvgezAD9IGQKEG0?docId=D9IGQKEG0 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iAekET4T1D...
- geirr 16y agoNorway started negotiating with China about a new trade policy in 2008. This was going well, and Norway might have been the first European country to get such a deal. According to Norwegian newspapers, it is now a great risk that China cancels the negotiations.
- arethuza 16y agoPresumably Norway is one of the few countries that doesn't have to worry too much about upsetting the Chinese - they have huge amounts of money and oil and Russia in between them and the Chinese.
- jacoblyles 16y agoHaving money doesn't mean that trade embargoes or tariffs won't hurt a country at the margin. The goods that are available to them to buy with that money through international trade will decline in number, which is a clear loss. You can't live on oil alone.
- 0_o 16y agoTwo most well-known Chinese liberals share the same name -Xiaobo, what a coincidence! The other one is Wang Xiaobo, whose name is much more influencial in China.
- thomasfl 16y agoNow you've done it! Hacker News probably just got blocked out of The Great Firewall of China[tm). All Norwegian sites will probably blocked out too. BTW. I live in Norway.
- sbt 16y agoI don't think the Nobel committee has ever given out the price without having been slammed by someone or some government. The price is political so it's no wonder. Apparently, Chinese foreign affairs has already stated that this may damage Chinese-Norwegian relations (sorry no citation). Of course, equating the Nobel committee with the Norwegian government is as wrong as equating a newspaper editor printing Islamic cartoons with it, then torching down an embassy.
- sasvari 16y agohere's your citation: Chinese Foreign Ministry: The Nobel Committee awarding Liu this prize, which runs contrary to the principle of the Peace Prize, will bring damage to two-way relations. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11499931 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11499931
- est 16y agohere is the official citation http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/chn/gxh/tyb/fyrbt/t759532.htm http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/chn/gxh/tyb/fyrbt/t759532.htm
- hugh3 16y agoOf course, equating the Nobel committee with the Norwegian government is as wrong as equating a newspaper editor printing Islamic cartoons with it, then torching down an embassy. Strictly speaking it's as wrong as the first part, the torching-an-embassy bit is a whole new level of wrong.
- alexdong 16y ago> Of course, equating the Nobel committee with the Norwegian government is as wrong as equating a newspaper editor printing Islamic cartoons with it, then torching down an embassy. This is very western way of seeing thing, which I happen to agree. The current Chinese education system has been trying very hard, and quite successfully, to mix these concepts together: country, geographic land, government, ethnic group in order to make the current political system legitimate by "natural". Now, if you ask me what will happen to liuxiaobo, I'd bet 80%+ on that he will stay in prison. Based on my observation of the a few years after the tian'an'men massacre and the economic position China is having right now, I don't expect Chinese government to back off on this particular issue under external pressures. What'll happen is the news will soon move on to the next interesting topic and what's going on with China will continue on its path. As a Chinese, I'm quite impressed by the fact that the Nobel committee has the gut to take the risk and stick with their own decision. I'd, humbly, call this the triumph of humanity since it values human rights and the pursue of personal freedom over pure economic considerations.
- avar 16y agoEven if the news moves on having the first Chinese citizen to win a Nobel Peace prize rotting in prison sends a strong message to the world, and to any Chinese citizens reading about their own country.
- _delirium 16y agoThis is very western way of seeing thing, which I happen to agree. The current Chinese education system has been trying very hard, and quite successfully, to mix these concepts together: country, geographic land, government, ethnic group in order to make the current political system legitimate by "natural". I agree as far as the current situation, but I don't think it's anything inherent about western or non-western ways of thinking, just a result of where Europe and China happen to be currently in their politics. Mixing country/land/government/ethnic-group into a "natural" whole used to be a very European idea as well, and was probably the dominant view of nation-states throughout the period of European ethnic nationalism in the 18th and 19th centuries. I think that today it's unpopular in Europe partly because it's so associated with 20th-century fascism: no mainstream German today would want to promote the idea that the German people, the German land, the German state, and German culture are some sort of natural, unified whole, because that sort of rhetoric marks you out as a member of the far-right.
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- liuliu 16y agoIt should be marked as the most "unpeaceful" night of Nobel Peace Prize. As to date, More than ten people in Beijing and Shanghai who voluntarily celebrated the event were taken into custody.