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In this year’s WWDC I asked the same question one of the GPU software engineers and he claimed that Apple is going to completely remove support for OpenGL in ab

In this year’s WWDC I asked the same question one of the GPU software engineers and he claimed that Apple is going to completely remove support for OpenGL in about two years from now. Regardless, “deprecated” means “no longer maintained”, meaning that if any regressions will appear in the near future, it’s possible no one will fix them, as these issues will not be prioritized.

bodas 8y ago
I'd take that with a grain of salt. Apple likes to threaten removal of technologies they have deprecated as a way to increase adoption of their replacements but rarely if ever go from deprecation to removal so aggressively, at least on the Mac.
- tomovo 8y ago
  They might exclude deprecated APIs from the pre-announced iOS-MacOS portable platform (Marzipan). That is the move that makes them unsuitable for future use. This also includes UIWebView and other quite popular pieces of the SDK. A clean cut - good opportunity to shed some weight, actually.
- malkia 8y ago
  https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/alias-products/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Discontinuation-of-Mac-Support-for-Autodesk-Alias-and-VRED.html https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/alias-products/troubl...
pcwalton 8y ago
Note that Apple is still committed to supporting WebGL in Safari, so OpenGL ES will at least be supported that way going forward. So it's arguably not so much "OpenGL is going away" as it is "OpenGL is going to be maintained by the Safari team, and JS will be the only interface to it" :)
- pjmlp 8y ago
  WebGL does not require OpenGL implementation. Most browsers on Windows use DirectX instead and the games consoles also only have their own 3D APIs.
  - pcwalton 8y ago
    WebGL is an OpenGL implementation. On Windows, it's often implemented with ANGLE, also an OpenGL implementation. The GL spec doesn't require that the hardware or OS manufacturers are the ones to implement it. :)

bodas 8y ago

I'd take that with a grain of salt. Apple likes to threaten removal of technologies they have deprecated as a way to increase adoption of their replacements but rarely if ever go from deprecation to removal so aggressively, at least on the Mac.

tomovo 8y ago
They might exclude deprecated APIs from the pre-announced iOS-MacOS portable platform (Marzipan). That is the move that makes them unsuitable for future use. This also includes UIWebView and other quite popular pieces of the SDK. A clean cut - good opportunity to shed some weight, actually.
malkia 8y ago
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/alias-products/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Discontinuation-of-Mac-Support-for-Autodesk-Alias-and-VRED.html https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/alias-products/troubl...

pcwalton 8y ago

Note that Apple is still committed to supporting WebGL in Safari, so OpenGL ES will at least be supported that way going forward. So it's arguably not so much "OpenGL is going away" as it is "OpenGL is going to be maintained by the Safari team, and JS will be the only interface to it" :)

pjmlp 8y ago
WebGL does not require OpenGL implementation. Most browsers on Windows use DirectX instead and the games consoles also only have their own 3D APIs.
- pcwalton 8y ago
  WebGL is an OpenGL implementation. On Windows, it's often implemented with ANGLE, also an OpenGL implementation. The GL spec doesn't require that the hardware or OS manufacturers are the ones to implement it. :)