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The drones would chase the birds away. And in cases when the birds are to be sucked by a jet's engine the autonomous drone would follow suit

pluto9 8y ago
> The drones would chase the birds away. Chasing requires fleeing. If the bird knows from experience that the drone won't hurt him, then why would he flee from it?
- LeifCarrotson 8y ago
  Because he's a bird?
  - pluto9 8y ago
    It is not obvious to me that a bird will flee from anything that approaches it, regardless of past experience, simply "because he's a bird". See above about city pigeons. Or aggressive geese at the park. Or birds that get sucked into jet engines because they apparently don't consider a jumbo jet to be an obstacle worth avoiding, hence this conversation.
    - oh_sigh 8y ago
      Even city-dwelling pigeons have a personal space bubble that they will try to protect if possible. It may be just a foot or two but it is still there.
      - pluto9 8y ago
        The smaller that bubble gets, the greater the chance of a drone actually striking a bird, which could become a major legal liability [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_Bird_Treaty_Act_of_1918 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_Bird_Treaty_Act_of_1...
        oh_sigh 8y ago
        I'd imagine airports could get a waiver to pursue the birds for human safety. Airports are generally well acquainted with working with the government.
    - TomMarius 8y ago
      > Or birds that get sucked into jet engines because they apparently don't consider a jumbo jet to be an obstacle worth avoiding, hence this conversation. The problem there is that the bird has no time to react. Planes are way faster and actually suck air.
- onemoresoop 8y ago
  Chasing the birds in circles
  - onemoresoop 8y ago
    Or maybe the drone could be equipped to zap birds with some small electrical charge. They'd learn the lesson quickly
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Aircraft have beacons to stop them flying into each other, I'm not sure why they wouldn't design the drones to be able to detect them.

pluto9 8y ago

> The drones would chase the birds away. Chasing requires fleeing. If the bird knows from experience that the drone won't hurt him, then why would he flee from it?

LeifCarrotson 8y ago
Because he's a bird?
- pluto9 8y ago
  It is not obvious to me that a bird will flee from anything that approaches it, regardless of past experience, simply "because he's a bird". See above about city pigeons. Or aggressive geese at the park. Or birds that get sucked into jet engines because they apparently don't consider a jumbo jet to be an obstacle worth avoiding, hence this conversation.
  - oh_sigh 8y ago
    Even city-dwelling pigeons have a personal space bubble that they will try to protect if possible. It may be just a foot or two but it is still there.
    - pluto9 8y ago
      The smaller that bubble gets, the greater the chance of a drone actually striking a bird, which could become a major legal liability [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_Bird_Treaty_Act_of_1918 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_Bird_Treaty_Act_of_1...
      - oh_sigh 8y ago
        I'd imagine airports could get a waiver to pursue the birds for human safety. Airports are generally well acquainted with working with the government.
  - TomMarius 8y ago
    > Or birds that get sucked into jet engines because they apparently don't consider a jumbo jet to be an obstacle worth avoiding, hence this conversation. The problem there is that the bird has no time to react. Planes are way faster and actually suck air.
onemoresoop 8y ago
Chasing the birds in circles
- onemoresoop 8y ago
  Or maybe the drone could be equipped to zap birds with some small electrical charge. They'd learn the lesson quickly

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

Aircraft have beacons to stop them flying into each other, I'm not sure why they wouldn't design the drones to be able to detect them.