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Well, you can repeat it many times but it will not become true. I gave you link to the list of Rust types. Pointers are pointers, not types. Traits can have any

Well, you can repeat it many times but it will not become true. I gave you link to the list of Rust types. Pointers are pointers, not types. Traits can have any name, their names mean nothing.

foldr 8y ago
https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/first-edition/raw-pointers.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/first-edition/raw-pointers.ht... *const u32 (for example) is a clearly a Rust type -- a const pointer to an unsigned 32-bit integer, analogous to const uint32_t *p in C/C++. I'm not sure what you mean about trait names. The purpose of the Any trait is to make it possible to pass around values of any type and dynamically downcast them, as the documentation indicates. That is a safe analogue of casting a void pointer to another type.
- EugeneOZ 8y ago
  To be dynamic, "Any" should be able to represent literally ANY type. As you can find, Any is a reflection-wise trait to work with static types. It's not something what you can use when you don't know type and language will dynamically convert it. You can't write fn example(foo: Any) -> u32 { foo+55 } as you CAN do in dynamic languages. Do you understand me now? Or we will keep talking about unsafe extra special types?
  - rhencke 8y ago
    Please remember there's a genuine human on the other end, trying to have a respectful conversation with you.
    - EugeneOZ 8y ago
      Or there is a person who is trying to prove his offtopic point by some pedantic interruptions, which are far from the main idea of discussion.
  - foldr 8y ago
    You can do that if you change it to &Any and then downcast. See the docs for examples. If the issue is that you have to downcast, then your initial claim that Rust lacks void pointers was irrelevant even if true, since you also have to downcast a void pointer in C before you can perform operations on the type that it's actually pointing to.
    - EugeneOZ 8y ago
      > If the issue is that you have to downcast It's the difference between dynamic language and language with synthetic type for reflections.
    - xfer 8y ago
      You can't downcast it to anything you want, it returns an Option, void pointers in C are not certainly the same, it's unsafe.
      - foldr 8y ago
        I know. That's why I said it's "a safe analogue of casting a void pointer to another type".

Well, you can repeat it many times but it will not become true. I gave you link to the list of Rust types. Pointers are pointers, not types. Traits can have any name, their names mean nothing.

foldr 8y ago

https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/first-edition/raw-pointers.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/first-edition/raw-pointers.ht... *const u32 (for example) is a clearly a Rust type -- a const pointer to an unsigned 32-bit integer, analogous to const uint32_t *p in C/C++. I'm not sure what you mean about trait names. The purpose of the Any trait is to make it possible to pass around values of any type and dynamically downcast them, as the documentation indicates. That is a safe analogue of casting a void pointer to another type.

EugeneOZ 8y ago
To be dynamic, "Any" should be able to represent literally ANY type. As you can find, Any is a reflection-wise trait to work with static types. It's not something what you can use when you don't know type and language will dynamically convert it. You can't write fn example(foo: Any) -> u32 { foo+55 } as you CAN do in dynamic languages. Do you understand me now? Or we will keep talking about unsafe extra special types?
- rhencke 8y ago
  Please remember there's a genuine human on the other end, trying to have a respectful conversation with you.
  - EugeneOZ 8y ago
    Or there is a person who is trying to prove his offtopic point by some pedantic interruptions, which are far from the main idea of discussion.
- foldr 8y ago
  You can do that if you change it to &Any and then downcast. See the docs for examples. If the issue is that you have to downcast, then your initial claim that Rust lacks void pointers was irrelevant even if true, since you also have to downcast a void pointer in C before you can perform operations on the type that it's actually pointing to.
  - EugeneOZ 8y ago
    > If the issue is that you have to downcast It's the difference between dynamic language and language with synthetic type for reflections.
  - xfer 8y ago
    You can't downcast it to anything you want, it returns an Option, void pointers in C are not certainly the same, it's unsafe.
    - foldr 8y ago
      I know. That's why I said it's "a safe analogue of casting a void pointer to another type".