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This is a pretty weird statement, as one party has fought tirelessly for NN including legislation and regulation, while one party has fought against legislation

This is a pretty weird statement, as one party has fought tirelessly for NN including legislation and regulation, while one party has fought against legislation and regulation. But you create a false equivalence based on media corp donations, instead of examining the actual behavior and recent history of the parties. To Godwin this: "Well, the fascists and racists are supporting both Hitler's party and his competition, so, really they're all the same!" You might want to sophisticate your political examination process.

mkane848 8y ago
I'm on the same side and pretty much agree with all of your points, but that really came out as condescending. I'm a huge fan of the new wave of Dems coming through (mainly the Democratic Socialist part) but we can't act like the main Democratic Party hasn't been fucking up for a WHILE. They're still trying to fight the DemSoc movement even though it's getting huge grassroot support. I don't trust the main party, but I believe in some select parts of the machine and don't think it's unreasonable for people to call out the Dems on their shit.
- criley2 8y ago
  Your reply is kind of ridiculous. "The main party"? Dem socs are anti-intellectual idealists and while I appreciate their energy it's like putting a designer in charge of programming. "Free college and healthcare and everything for everyone" "How do we implement that?" "IDK it'll all wash out in the end" I fall along the neoliberal lines, more of the liberal engineers as opposed to the liberal dreamers. Dem socs, again, love the enthusiasm, but there's little more to it than that. The "main party" is the one who has tirelessly fought for and achieved Net Neutrality. Hate us boring "main party" types all you want, but don't disparage our recent history: We main party Democrats are the only force in America who fought for and achieved Net Neutrality. We did that. GOP destroyed it, sure, but it was us main party dems which made it a party plank, which pushed it to Obama and his FCC, and made it reality. And it'll be us who do it again, too.

mkane848 8y ago

I'm on the same side and pretty much agree with all of your points, but that really came out as condescending. I'm a huge fan of the new wave of Dems coming through (mainly the Democratic Socialist part) but we can't act like the main Democratic Party hasn't been fucking up for a WHILE. They're still trying to fight the DemSoc movement even though it's getting huge grassroot support. I don't trust the main party, but I believe in some select parts of the machine and don't think it's unreasonable for people to call out the Dems on their shit.

criley2 8y ago
Your reply is kind of ridiculous. "The main party"? Dem socs are anti-intellectual idealists and while I appreciate their energy it's like putting a designer in charge of programming. "Free college and healthcare and everything for everyone" "How do we implement that?" "IDK it'll all wash out in the end" I fall along the neoliberal lines, more of the liberal engineers as opposed to the liberal dreamers. Dem socs, again, love the enthusiasm, but there's little more to it than that. The "main party" is the one who has tirelessly fought for and achieved Net Neutrality. Hate us boring "main party" types all you want, but don't disparage our recent history: We main party Democrats are the only force in America who fought for and achieved Net Neutrality. We did that. GOP destroyed it, sure, but it was us main party dems which made it a party plank, which pushed it to Obama and his FCC, and made it reality. And it'll be us who do it again, too.