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This is what a police state looks like.

pvg 16y ago
He opined thoughtfully, resplendent in his wizard robe and tinfoil hat.
sprout 16y ago
No, a police state has checkpoints and men with semiautomatic weapons clearly visible during most daily commutes. This is a very bad thing, but it is not a police state. Nothing was done.
- davidmurphy 16y ago
  Nothing was done? This person's privacy was violated, and the country I love is slipping away in some ways. That's what was done. No, it's not a police state, but yes, it's very bad to have things going in the direction they're going. We MUST stand up and STOP this kind of stuff. We must not let it keep getting worse. EDIT: To quote Picard, "the line must be drawn HERE!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGF1NP-FrCU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGF1NP-FrCU
  - kmfrk 16y ago
    You're construing his "Nothing was done" to fit your point, but you're obviously being too literal about it.
  - thwarted 16y ago
    That's a terrible choice for a Picard speech for this topic. What happens in "The Drumhead" is much more applicable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ZZyJCqkg4#t=3m43 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ZZyJCqkg4#t=3m43 But watch the entire clip for context.
- lzw 16y ago
  By your completely arbitrary definition of a police state, then NYC is a police state as are americas airports. Reality is, this country is a police state, it is the modern one, and it is pumped full of government propaganda about how it isn't a police state and how all these police state actions are justified so that people are able to continue to delude themselves. Frankly most of the police abuses are simply never reported in mainstream media. But the reality is, depending on where you draw the line, either this is already a police state or it is well on its way.
  - sprout 16y ago
    Firstly: America's airports represent a minority of the daily commutes in America. In order for America's airports to be police states, they would have to be states. They're not. They're airports. Secondly, while there are 'checkpoints' of sorts in NYC, I don't believe they're the variety staffed by heavily armed guards. I haven't been to NYC in around 5 years, but as I remember it interacting with police, heavily armed or otherwise, would be an extraordinary event on a daily commute. Of course my definition is arbitrary, but I stand by it.
    - lzw 16y ago
      >In order for America's airports to be police states, they would have to be states. They're not. They're airports. You are a good german. A useful idiot. The kind that enthusiastically joined the nazi party and made snotty arguments to anyone how expressed concern. It is you, and the millions of unthinking bovine people like you in this country that are enabling the destruction of capitalism and the massive loss of life that it will entail. You do not belong on this site, since you are obviously a socialist troll.
jscore 16y ago
Coming from someone who lived in one, trust me when I say - you have no idea what you're talking about.
- deleted 16y ago
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- lzw 16y ago
  It could always be worse, but thanks for the requisite jingoistic "america- fuck yeah!" comment.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  A 'police state' is not a binary proposition. There are elements to it and one of those elements includes the arbitrary tracking of citizens without warrants.
code_duck 16y ago
A police state looks like: instead of putting a tracking device on his car, they would ram down his door, shoot his dog, and arrest everyone in the house instead of just tracking a vehicle. Oh, WAIT... they do that now and then in the US, but you have to be someone REALLY dangerous, like a pot dealer.
gxti 16y ago
This isn't the appropriate forum for such childishness. If you would like to compare and contrast historical police states, then by all means do so, but don't just put out the same trite "everything is ruined forever" bullshit.

pvg 16y ago

He opined thoughtfully, resplendent in his wizard robe and tinfoil hat.

No, a police state has checkpoints and men with semiautomatic weapons clearly visible during most daily commutes. This is a very bad thing, but it is not a police state. Nothing was done.

davidmurphy 16y ago
Nothing was done? This person's privacy was violated, and the country I love is slipping away in some ways. That's what was done. No, it's not a police state, but yes, it's very bad to have things going in the direction they're going. We MUST stand up and STOP this kind of stuff. We must not let it keep getting worse. EDIT: To quote Picard, "the line must be drawn HERE!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGF1NP-FrCU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGF1NP-FrCU
- kmfrk 16y ago
  You're construing his "Nothing was done" to fit your point, but you're obviously being too literal about it.
- thwarted 16y ago
  That's a terrible choice for a Picard speech for this topic. What happens in "The Drumhead" is much more applicable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ZZyJCqkg4#t=3m43 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ZZyJCqkg4#t=3m43 But watch the entire clip for context.
lzw 16y ago
By your completely arbitrary definition of a police state, then NYC is a police state as are americas airports. Reality is, this country is a police state, it is the modern one, and it is pumped full of government propaganda about how it isn't a police state and how all these police state actions are justified so that people are able to continue to delude themselves. Frankly most of the police abuses are simply never reported in mainstream media. But the reality is, depending on where you draw the line, either this is already a police state or it is well on its way.
- sprout 16y ago
  Firstly: America's airports represent a minority of the daily commutes in America. In order for America's airports to be police states, they would have to be states. They're not. They're airports. Secondly, while there are 'checkpoints' of sorts in NYC, I don't believe they're the variety staffed by heavily armed guards. I haven't been to NYC in around 5 years, but as I remember it interacting with police, heavily armed or otherwise, would be an extraordinary event on a daily commute. Of course my definition is arbitrary, but I stand by it.
  - lzw 16y ago
    >In order for America's airports to be police states, they would have to be states. They're not. They're airports. You are a good german. A useful idiot. The kind that enthusiastically joined the nazi party and made snotty arguments to anyone how expressed concern. It is you, and the millions of unthinking bovine people like you in this country that are enabling the destruction of capitalism and the massive loss of life that it will entail. You do not belong on this site, since you are obviously a socialist troll.

jscore 16y ago

Coming from someone who lived in one, trust me when I say - you have no idea what you're talking about.

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lzw 16y ago
It could always be worse, but thanks for the requisite jingoistic "america- fuck yeah!" comment.
jacquesm 16y ago
A 'police state' is not a binary proposition. There are elements to it and one of those elements includes the arbitrary tracking of citizens without warrants.

code_duck 16y ago

A police state looks like: instead of putting a tracking device on his car, they would ram down his door, shoot his dog, and arrest everyone in the house instead of just tracking a vehicle. Oh, WAIT... they do that now and then in the US, but you have to be someone REALLY dangerous, like a pot dealer.

gxti 16y ago

This isn't the appropriate forum for such childishness. If you would like to compare and contrast historical police states, then by all means do so, but don't just put out the same trite "everything is ruined forever" bullshit.