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Yeah, if pushing a pram is seen as a stereotypically “female” activity and because of tat further outside the lived reality of the men writing the software, the
by arrrg 8y ago
Yeah, if pushing a pram is seen as a stereotypically “female” activity and because of tat further outside the lived reality of the men writing the software, then it could be sexism.
I do agree, though, that this is more generally something indicating that diversity in teams working on software all kinds of people use is important. I think a father could just as well have helped out here, because I can’t imagine that you wouldn’t immediately think of pushing the pram as an activity you want to track if you were a parent heavily involved with your child. It’s obvious, really.
- kalleboo 8y agoI push a pram every day but I think of it as "walking" not "pushing a pram", if I was working on this feature it would not be obvious to me to include it as a separate activity. I don't have much experience with activity trackers though. Do they also have option for if you're carrying a backpack or not, and other similar minor consequential details?
- arrrg 8y agoThey might differentiate between walking and hiking, for example.
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoWhat differentiates hiking from walking?
- dwighttk 8y ago(On the Apple Watch) the different activities use different algorithms to estimate your calorie burn. I would guess that hiking gives you a higher burn rate for the same speed to account for possibly more difficult terrain and carrying a backpack. I don’t know this for certain. I’ve never tried to use the hiking algorithm on my walking path to compare them.
- mbreese 8y agoIf I were to guess, I’d say altitude differences and terrain. It takes less energy to walk on flat, paved sidewalks than to hike a trail.
- llampx 8y agoGPS can take care of altitude gain/loss. Rougher terrain may well have greater calorie burn though.
- astura 8y agoTerrain.
- Broken_Hippo 8y agoTerrain. Walking is usually on a finished, somewhat flat surface. Hiking - even in flat areas - generally have obstacles and uneven surfaces. Tree roots, branches with thorns, and so on. It isn't uncommon to do a bit of a climb either. If I'm in a good enough area, I might personally be crossing a stream on rocks. I'm guessing this has different output in the device: Steps taken hiking might not equal that on a walk, for instance, but may (in general) burn more calories.
- freeflight 8y ago> if pushing a pram is seen as a stereotypically “female” activity and because of tat further outside the lived reality of the men writing the software, it could be sexism So one would need to make sexist assumptions about activities (only females push prams) to interpret a sexist intent on the side of the coders (I don't like females, so no pushing pram activity!)? But isn't that kind of a circular logic requiring sexism itself to work? What about pushing a shopping cart? Carrying your groceries up to the 6th floor, where are the activities for that? Are they missing because of all the coders never shopping themselves? Imho this has much more to do with the threshold of "what constitutes a track-worthy activity?", there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of rather mundane activities that could be added for tracking, because if you up the resolution enough even breathing is burning calories.