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Ironically, there's probably no organization on the planet that you should trust more with your personal information than Google. No organization takes privacy

by dnomad 8y ago

Ironically, there's probably no organization on the planet that you should trust more with your personal information than Google. No organization takes privacy and security more seriously and spends more money and time getting it right. (Yes, that includes well-funded intelligence agencies like the NSA and your closest friends and family.) The idea that Google is going to turn around and start selling your information to third parties is just dumb.

maccard 8y ago
> The idea that Google is going to turn around and start selling your information to third parties is just dumb. Google's business _is_ selling my information to third parties. Don't Apple have a better track record, and a more privacy oriented business model here?
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > Google's business _is_ selling my information to third parties. No, Google's business is using your information as a tool to build products it sells to third parties. Actually selling your information, as such, would undermine that business. Google business is no more about selling your information to other people than a ferryman’s business is selling his boat. Your privacy against non-Google actors is Google's moat. They have every interest in protecting it.
  - maccard 8y ago
    > No, Google's business is using your information as a tool to build products it sells to third parties. Really? If we're going to be that pedantic, then it's probably more like " Google's business is using your information to build products it sells to third parties." They're not using my information as a tool, they're using my information (location, interests, browsing habits, searches) to sell a product (advertising). At that stage, they _are_ selling my data.
confounded 8y ago
> Ironically, there's probably no organization on the planet that you should trust more with your personal information than Google Thank you for the suggestion. We likely have different ideals about what a healthy version of the future looks like. > ...selling your information to third parties... Not what I said. Google’s business model is to extract and store as much information about consumers as possible, enrich and correlate it, and then financially exploit it. Currently the best way they’ve found to do that is targeted advertising. By doing so, they make this extremely revealing data available to every government in every jurisdiction in which they operate, which is pretty much all of them. They work to normalize this surveillance as inevitable and unstoppable. Additionally, while it would currently run counter to their business model to sell raw data, there’s nothing to legally stop them, if that business model should change. Just like Facebook, Google are now very close to market saturation. To keep growth up, they’ll need to increase revenue per user. How will they do that? We don’t know. But there’s a relatively high chance that I’ll like it even less than what they’re doing now. > ... dumb :)

by dnomad 8y ago

maccard 8y ago

> The idea that Google is going to turn around and start selling your information to third parties is just dumb. Google's business _is_ selling my information to third parties. Don't Apple have a better track record, and a more privacy oriented business model here?

dragonwriter 8y ago
> Google's business _is_ selling my information to third parties. No, Google's business is using your information as a tool to build products it sells to third parties. Actually selling your information, as such, would undermine that business. Google business is no more about selling your information to other people than a ferryman’s business is selling his boat. Your privacy against non-Google actors is Google's moat. They have every interest in protecting it.
- maccard 8y ago
  > No, Google's business is using your information as a tool to build products it sells to third parties. Really? If we're going to be that pedantic, then it's probably more like " Google's business is using your information to build products it sells to third parties." They're not using my information as a tool, they're using my information (location, interests, browsing habits, searches) to sell a product (advertising). At that stage, they _are_ selling my data.

confounded 8y ago

> Ironically, there's probably no organization on the planet that you should trust more with your personal information than Google Thank you for the suggestion. We likely have different ideals about what a healthy version of the future looks like. > ...selling your information to third parties... Not what I said. Google’s business model is to extract and store as much information about consumers as possible, enrich and correlate it, and then financially exploit it. Currently the best way they’ve found to do that is targeted advertising. By doing so, they make this extremely revealing data available to every government in every jurisdiction in which they operate, which is pretty much all of them. They work to normalize this surveillance as inevitable and unstoppable. Additionally, while it would currently run counter to their business model to sell raw data, there’s nothing to legally stop them, if that business model should change. Just like Facebook, Google are now very close to market saturation. To keep growth up, they’ll need to increase revenue per user. How will they do that? We don’t know. But there’s a relatively high chance that I’ll like it even less than what they’re doing now. > ... dumb :)