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Or the USB to PS/2 adapters.

dogma1138 8y ago
USB to PS/2 adapters don’t work, they only work if they aren’t an adapters but a passthrough which means the keyboard has to natively support PS/2. The problem with PS/2 is that most motherboards today don’t have it anymore so you can’t use passthrough adapters.
- blattimwind 8y ago
  > The problem with PS/2 is that most motherboards today don’t have it anymore About two thirds of all current motherboards have PS/2.
  - dogma1138 8y ago
    Not mainstream / enthusiast / gaming ones check the IO those, ASUS and EVGA dropped it completely, Gigabyte offers it on some motherboards, same goes for MSI and ASRock. Also the last gaming keyboard which still had native PS/2 support was the old non-macro enabled CM quickfire.
    - opencl 8y ago
      ASUS definitely still makes several motherboards with PS/2 ports. My Prime X370 Pro has one, and the updated X470 version still has it. The Prime B350M even has separate ones instead of the combo.
      - dogma1138 8y ago
        none of the Asus z370 ones have it, and almost none of the z270 had it either. Despite Ryzen AMD is still negligible as far as market share goes.
        opencl 8y ago
        AMD's overall marketshare is still low because of near-zero laptop or OEM penetration but their share of retail CPU sales (i.e. the only people that buy motherboards) is nearly 50% according to every recent sales report I've seen. https://segmentnext.com/2018/05/23/amd-cpu-market-share-46/ https://segmentnext.com/2018/05/23/amd-cpu-market-share-46/ https://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-amd-ryzen-cpu-market-share-july-2018/ https://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-amd-ryzen-cpu-market-... edit: Also they do have a Z370 board with PS/2, the ROG STRIX Z370-G GAMING.
        dogma1138 8y ago
        AMD isn’t anywhere near 50% market share in overall sales when it comes to enthusiast hardware. It looks like you got the only mono from Asus that comes with a PS/2 port other than the Apex: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11860/z370-motherboards-asus-asrock-ecs-evga-biostar-msi-gigabyte/6 https://www.anandtech.com/show/11860/z370-motherboards-asus-...
        opencl 8y ago
        ASUS has literally dozens of current motherboards with PS/2 ports, including 5 Z370 models. I really have no idea where you get the idea that they "dropped it completely". https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%20601304476%20600008952%20600158845%204814&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&PageSize=36&order=BESTMATCH https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N... https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007625%2050001315%20601292786%20600008951%20600008952%20600158845%204814 https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&I...
        blattimwind 8y ago
        Geizhals lists 63 Z370 mainboards for me. 48 of those have PS/2. That's 76 %. https://geizhals.de/?cat=mbp4_1151v2&xf=317_Z370%7E7088_PS%2F2 https://geizhals.de/?cat=mbp4_1151v2&xf=317_Z370%7E7088_PS%2... (I don't know a similar English/US site)

USB to PS/2 adapters don’t work, they only work if they aren’t an adapters but a passthrough which means the keyboard has to natively support PS/2. The problem with PS/2 is that most motherboards today don’t have it anymore so you can’t use passthrough adapters.

blattimwind 8y ago
> The problem with PS/2 is that most motherboards today don’t have it anymore About two thirds of all current motherboards have PS/2.
- dogma1138 8y ago
  Not mainstream / enthusiast / gaming ones check the IO those, ASUS and EVGA dropped it completely, Gigabyte offers it on some motherboards, same goes for MSI and ASRock. Also the last gaming keyboard which still had native PS/2 support was the old non-macro enabled CM quickfire.
  - opencl 8y ago
    ASUS definitely still makes several motherboards with PS/2 ports. My Prime X370 Pro has one, and the updated X470 version still has it. The Prime B350M even has separate ones instead of the combo.
    - dogma1138 8y ago
      none of the Asus z370 ones have it, and almost none of the z270 had it either. Despite Ryzen AMD is still negligible as far as market share goes.
      - opencl 8y ago
        AMD's overall marketshare is still low because of near-zero laptop or OEM penetration but their share of retail CPU sales (i.e. the only people that buy motherboards) is nearly 50% according to every recent sales report I've seen. https://segmentnext.com/2018/05/23/amd-cpu-market-share-46/ https://segmentnext.com/2018/05/23/amd-cpu-market-share-46/ https://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-amd-ryzen-cpu-market-share-july-2018/ https://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-amd-ryzen-cpu-market-... edit: Also they do have a Z370 board with PS/2, the ROG STRIX Z370-G GAMING.
        dogma1138 8y ago
        AMD isn’t anywhere near 50% market share in overall sales when it comes to enthusiast hardware. It looks like you got the only mono from Asus that comes with a PS/2 port other than the Apex: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11860/z370-motherboards-asus-asrock-ecs-evga-biostar-msi-gigabyte/6 https://www.anandtech.com/show/11860/z370-motherboards-asus-...
        opencl 8y ago
        ASUS has literally dozens of current motherboards with PS/2 ports, including 5 Z370 models. I really have no idea where you get the idea that they "dropped it completely". https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%20601304476%20600008952%20600158845%204814&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&PageSize=36&order=BESTMATCH https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N... https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007625%2050001315%20601292786%20600008951%20600008952%20600158845%204814 https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&I...
        blattimwind 8y ago
        Geizhals lists 63 Z370 mainboards for me. 48 of those have PS/2. That's 76 %. https://geizhals.de/?cat=mbp4_1151v2&xf=317_Z370%7E7088_PS%2F2 https://geizhals.de/?cat=mbp4_1151v2&xf=317_Z370%7E7088_PS%2... (I don't know a similar English/US site)