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Sarah’s role was basically as a Canadian or Korean descent, providing advice to Vice that publishing rumours from 4chan and Reddit regarding a Chinese national’

Sarah’s role was basically as a Canadian or Korean descent, providing advice to Vice that publishing rumours from 4chan and Reddit regarding a Chinese national’s sexual orientation, sex life, or relationship status would be harmless. This, after Naomi had explicitly advised Vice that discussion of her sexuality and relationship status were absolutely out of bounds. Vice does not comment on the sexuality or relationship status of male makers they interview.

danso 8y ago
Sorry, but was Sarah involved in the reporting or publishing of this article? She did not work for VICE at the time.
- Tomte 8y ago
  All pretty unclear from the articles, especially the timelines. Sarah states in a tweet that she worked for Motherboard/Vice "before" that all happened: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558916382273542 https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558916382273542 I think she had no direct hand in the article, but she certainly picked a public fight shortly after the controversy started: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981575986322989056 https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981575986322989056 And Naomi seems to believe that this wasn't an independent tweet, but working in concert with the Vice editor she accuses of breaking an agreement. It's impossible to judge from the outside, but if you believe only someone who directly worked on the words of the article is "guilty", you probably come out with "Naomi' s accusations towards Sarah are unfounded". If you take a broader view, that someone tightly related to the people of the story who is injecting herself into the controvers by her own free will shares responsibility, you could reach the opposite result.
  - danso 8y ago
    Yeah my interpretation is that she wanted to publicly defend her former colleagues, but not that she played any part in the article’s writing or publishing. Again, that doesn’t mean that Wu isn’t justified to be angry at Jeong, for so publicly piling on. But the material damage from her fight with VICE had already been done by then. For example, Wu tweeted about being kicked from Patreon on April 2: https://twitter.com/realsexycyborg/status/980838253665271808 https://twitter.com/realsexycyborg/status/980838253665271808 The earliest tweet in the Jeong thread is from April 4: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558161566920704 https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558161566920704
- manicdee 8y ago
  Journalists ask for advice from experts outside their publication all the time. I am not saying that this is what happened but it wouldn’t surprise me to find that the Motherboard author or editor reached out to their only Asian-looking female friend to ask for advice.

danso 8y ago

Sorry, but was Sarah involved in the reporting or publishing of this article? She did not work for VICE at the time.

Tomte 8y ago
All pretty unclear from the articles, especially the timelines. Sarah states in a tweet that she worked for Motherboard/Vice "before" that all happened: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558916382273542 https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558916382273542 I think she had no direct hand in the article, but she certainly picked a public fight shortly after the controversy started: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981575986322989056 https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981575986322989056 And Naomi seems to believe that this wasn't an independent tweet, but working in concert with the Vice editor she accuses of breaking an agreement. It's impossible to judge from the outside, but if you believe only someone who directly worked on the words of the article is "guilty", you probably come out with "Naomi' s accusations towards Sarah are unfounded". If you take a broader view, that someone tightly related to the people of the story who is injecting herself into the controvers by her own free will shares responsibility, you could reach the opposite result.
- danso 8y ago
  Yeah my interpretation is that she wanted to publicly defend her former colleagues, but not that she played any part in the article’s writing or publishing. Again, that doesn’t mean that Wu isn’t justified to be angry at Jeong, for so publicly piling on. But the material damage from her fight with VICE had already been done by then. For example, Wu tweeted about being kicked from Patreon on April 2: https://twitter.com/realsexycyborg/status/980838253665271808 https://twitter.com/realsexycyborg/status/980838253665271808 The earliest tweet in the Jeong thread is from April 4: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558161566920704 https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/981558161566920704
manicdee 8y ago
Journalists ask for advice from experts outside their publication all the time. I am not saying that this is what happened but it wouldn’t surprise me to find that the Motherboard author or editor reached out to their only Asian-looking female friend to ask for advice.