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I've never listened to it, and in fact I have no idea who that guy is or what he talks about, except that he's supposedly a conspiracy theorist. For those of y

I've never listened to it, and in fact I have no idea who that guy is or what he talks about, except that he's supposedly a conspiracy theorist. For those of you who have, what made his show so objectionable (to Apple, anyway)?

ch4ck 8y ago
He supports POTUS.
- threeseed 8y ago
  So does Fox News and their content is available everywhere.
  - okket 8y ago
    Fox News is problematic, may be even extreme (Sean Hannity et al) but I would not put them in the same league as InfoWars. At least not as long as Shepard Smith gets airtime there. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHjFS5f1IT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHjFS5f1IT0
    - briandear 8y ago
      If we are to complain about Hannity, then we have to include Maddow. Assuming we are trying to be intellectually consistent. She’s just as “extreme” but from the other side.
      - okket 8y ago
        Classic false equivalence. You are right that Maddow is similar in style, but on a fact-to-fact based comparison, Hannity is some orders of magnitude more extreme.
- phs318u 8y ago
  He supports denial of reality, and he's reaching (part of) his audience on Apple's platform. They are within their rights to elect to remove him if he violates their terms of service. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other podcasts that support POTUS that haven't been removed.
- sctb 8y ago
  Please don't post drive-by partisan flamebait here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
__m 8y ago
He claimed the Sandy Hook shooting never happened for example and that the parents of the victims were actors
- s_m_t 8y ago
  So why now. Sandy Hook was five years ago.
  - threeseed 8y ago
    Because that's just an example. He has plenty of objectionable content.
    - briandear 8y ago
      Louis Farrakhan is on Apple Music and is far more objectionable in terms of his views of Jews than anything ever said by Alex Jones. https://www.adl.org/blog/louis-farrakhan-delivers-yet-another-sermon-laced-with-anti-semitic-tropes https://www.adl.org/blog/louis-farrakhan-delivers-yet-anothe...
  - seren 8y ago
    Parents of Sandy Hook victims are attacking Jones in a defamation lawsuit this year claiming they are harassed by people believing they are paid actors and the children did not even exist (or are still alive). So this is raising the profile of Alex Jones. As an aside, losing your child is probably one of the most horrific event that could happen in one's life. And moreover, imagine being harassed and accused of fabricating it and not even being able to go to the tomb. This is really hellish. Article on the audience : https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/infowars-sandy-hook-alex-jones.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/infowars-sand...
- briandear 8y ago
  If we are to go down this route, I should hope South Park Mexican is removed from Apple Music next. I am no fan of Alex Jones, but he traffics in conspiracies for entertainment value. He’s a shock jock for the tin foil hat crowd. That doesn’t excuse his ideas, but South Park Mexican is serving 45 years for sexually assaulting a 9 year old girl and his music is available right now on Apple Music — an actual, convicted child rapist can make royalties from Apple Music but Alex Jones gets banned? Jones is guilty of bad taste, SPM is guilty of raping a 9 year old girl.
crooked-v 8y ago
He lies constantly and has actively slandered mass murder victims.
- vixen99 8y ago
  Unsubstantiated! If you want to make such a major accusation then why not make an effort and take the trouble to provide at least some reason to believe. And no, this is absolutely not a defence of Alex Jones. It's a plea for constructive comment that might be helpful if one's trying to assess an issue.
yontherubicon 8y ago
Well, they're calling it hate speech. He doesn't talk about any particular ethnic group (not even Jews, despite what his detractors might say). He's against IIRC having trans children take puberty blockers, which might be an issue, but TBH an argument can be made for the well-being of the child. No, I think this is an issue of twitter-mob pressure against Itunes after Spotify announced they would keep Infowars content. And there are, AFAIK very few people who care one way or the other. It's more a slim minority of people who hate Alex Jones' views and wish to have his content blocked much the same way trolls are trying to take out Rick and Morty.
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  > not even Jews, despite what his detractors might say He’s talked extensively about the Jewish mafia. He promoted violence against the made-up “Pizzagate” B.S. and only backed down because Texan libel law is particularly stern. I support Alex Jones’ right to speak, but I don’t think—particularly in the era of the Internet—Apple should support him.
  - yontherubicon 8y ago
    >Jewish Mafia There's a Jewish Mafia? >Pizzagate He talked about it, sure, but if you can find me where he promotes violence against Alefantis then I'll eat my hat.
    - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
      > There's a Jewish Mafia? According to Jones [1][2]. (To be clear, there was a strain of Jewish-American organized crime around the turn of the last century [3], but that isn't what Jones was referring to.) [1] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418304/alex-jones-jewish-mafia https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418304/... [2] https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/alex-jones-five-things-to-know https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/alex-jones-five-... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crim...
orionblastar 8y ago
A right winged conspiracy theorist that sometimes makes things up for ratings like Sandy Hook was fake with crisis actors. He once had to admit that he does it for entertainment when lawsuits happened. But otherwise he is a right wing nutter. Apple chose not to support his podcast anymore.
TeMPOraL 8y ago
He says lots of polarizing bullshit. He's not crazy. He's just driving sales to his on-line store this way. These days, even conspiracy nutjobs aren't honestly crazy.

ch4ck 8y ago

He supports POTUS.

threeseed 8y ago
So does Fox News and their content is available everywhere.
- okket 8y ago
  Fox News is problematic, may be even extreme (Sean Hannity et al) but I would not put them in the same league as InfoWars. At least not as long as Shepard Smith gets airtime there. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHjFS5f1IT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHjFS5f1IT0
  - briandear 8y ago
    If we are to complain about Hannity, then we have to include Maddow. Assuming we are trying to be intellectually consistent. She’s just as “extreme” but from the other side.
    - okket 8y ago
      Classic false equivalence. You are right that Maddow is similar in style, but on a fact-to-fact based comparison, Hannity is some orders of magnitude more extreme.
phs318u 8y ago
He supports denial of reality, and he's reaching (part of) his audience on Apple's platform. They are within their rights to elect to remove him if he violates their terms of service. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other podcasts that support POTUS that haven't been removed.
sctb 8y ago
Please don't post drive-by partisan flamebait here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

__m 8y ago

He claimed the Sandy Hook shooting never happened for example and that the parents of the victims were actors

s_m_t 8y ago
So why now. Sandy Hook was five years ago.
- threeseed 8y ago
  Because that's just an example. He has plenty of objectionable content.
  - briandear 8y ago
    Louis Farrakhan is on Apple Music and is far more objectionable in terms of his views of Jews than anything ever said by Alex Jones. https://www.adl.org/blog/louis-farrakhan-delivers-yet-another-sermon-laced-with-anti-semitic-tropes https://www.adl.org/blog/louis-farrakhan-delivers-yet-anothe...
- seren 8y ago
  Parents of Sandy Hook victims are attacking Jones in a defamation lawsuit this year claiming they are harassed by people believing they are paid actors and the children did not even exist (or are still alive). So this is raising the profile of Alex Jones. As an aside, losing your child is probably one of the most horrific event that could happen in one's life. And moreover, imagine being harassed and accused of fabricating it and not even being able to go to the tomb. This is really hellish. Article on the audience : https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/infowars-sandy-hook-alex-jones.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/infowars-sand...
briandear 8y ago
If we are to go down this route, I should hope South Park Mexican is removed from Apple Music next. I am no fan of Alex Jones, but he traffics in conspiracies for entertainment value. He’s a shock jock for the tin foil hat crowd. That doesn’t excuse his ideas, but South Park Mexican is serving 45 years for sexually assaulting a 9 year old girl and his music is available right now on Apple Music — an actual, convicted child rapist can make royalties from Apple Music but Alex Jones gets banned? Jones is guilty of bad taste, SPM is guilty of raping a 9 year old girl.

crooked-v 8y ago

He lies constantly and has actively slandered mass murder victims.

vixen99 8y ago
Unsubstantiated! If you want to make such a major accusation then why not make an effort and take the trouble to provide at least some reason to believe. And no, this is absolutely not a defence of Alex Jones. It's a plea for constructive comment that might be helpful if one's trying to assess an issue.

yontherubicon 8y ago

Well, they're calling it hate speech. He doesn't talk about any particular ethnic group (not even Jews, despite what his detractors might say). He's against IIRC having trans children take puberty blockers, which might be an issue, but TBH an argument can be made for the well-being of the child. No, I think this is an issue of twitter-mob pressure against Itunes after Spotify announced they would keep Infowars content. And there are, AFAIK very few people who care one way or the other. It's more a slim minority of people who hate Alex Jones' views and wish to have his content blocked much the same way trolls are trying to take out Rick and Morty.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> not even Jews, despite what his detractors might say He’s talked extensively about the Jewish mafia. He promoted violence against the made-up “Pizzagate” B.S. and only backed down because Texan libel law is particularly stern. I support Alex Jones’ right to speak, but I don’t think—particularly in the era of the Internet—Apple should support him.
- yontherubicon 8y ago
  >Jewish Mafia There's a Jewish Mafia? >Pizzagate He talked about it, sure, but if you can find me where he promotes violence against Alefantis then I'll eat my hat.
  - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
    > There's a Jewish Mafia? According to Jones [1][2]. (To be clear, there was a strain of Jewish-American organized crime around the turn of the last century [3], but that isn't what Jones was referring to.) [1] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418304/alex-jones-jewish-mafia https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418304/... [2] https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/alex-jones-five-things-to-know https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/alex-jones-five-... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crim...

orionblastar 8y ago

A right winged conspiracy theorist that sometimes makes things up for ratings like Sandy Hook was fake with crisis actors. He once had to admit that he does it for entertainment when lawsuits happened. But otherwise he is a right wing nutter. Apple chose not to support his podcast anymore.

TeMPOraL 8y ago

He says lots of polarizing bullshit. He's not crazy. He's just driving sales to his on-line store this way. These days, even conspiracy nutjobs aren't honestly crazy.