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Can someone tl;dr?
by jack_quack 8y ago
Can someone tl;dr?
- aptwebapps 8y agoI don't think this story can be easily summarized. I would advise either reading the whole thing or skipping it altogether.
- Fellshard 8y agoVice breaks an agreement and puts a Chinese woman at risk for their story, then does everything they can to stifle her attempts to seek legal help, most notably starting with the original journalist, Jason Koebler, and aided and abetted by Sarah Jeong, who used blatantly underhanded tactics in order to undermine Naomi's credibility.
- sitharus 8y agoYou really need to read it to get the full impact, but essentially Naomi agreed to Vice running a story on the condition that they don't mention her relationship or sexuality topics - topics that are not only very touchy in China but also have no place in a technology/maker article. Vice thought this agreement was worth the paper they didn't print it on. Things escalated from there, but I can't really summarise the following parts, dirty tactics from those in a position of power IMO.
- manicdee 8y agoNot to mention that a significant portion of the Vice article was based on rumours and scuttlebutt from 4chan and Reddit. The article was very clearly a hit piece intended to portray Naomi as a fraud because as far as Vice, Motherboard or Koebler are concerned pretty women can’t be makers.
- emsy 8y ago-Vice is garbage -Sarah Jeong is as bad of a person as her tweets suggest
- Kimm0n0 8y agoI love much of the stuff Vice creates and Sarah Jeong is a important voice I follow. But it seems both could not see past the appearance of Naomi Wu, could not understand her circumstances and putting her at risk to make a minor point in a story.
- growlist 8y agoDo her racist tweets bother you?
- Kimm0n0 8y agoDid she try to mimic what was thrown at her?
- DuskStar 8y agoI've seen a whole lot of tweets from Sarah Jeong throwing shit at white people. I've not seen any yet of white people throwing shit at her based on her race. If there are tweets like that, I'd genuinely love to see them - I'd rather have my knowledge updated than continue being wrong.
- nubol 8y agoBy her tweets I saw two orientations, anti white, female superiority. You can research and find them, in the world of tech, if I see someone with a lot of bias I tend to doubt of his/her quality as a journalist.
- Fellshard 8y agoI'd say that hold regardless of which specific bias of those categories they may hold, because that degree of blatant bias in any area shows they are willing to distort the truth to fit their worldview lens, an unacceptable practice for a journalist.
- peteretep 8y agoThe author links to some Tweets that appear to tl;dr it pretty well: https://twitter.com/jackiehluo/status/982087205907607552 https://twitter.com/jackiehluo/status/982087205907607552 > vice asked her to do a story > she agreed under the condition that they avoid discussing certain personal topics for her safety > vice asked her to discuss them anyway > she attempted to resolve the issue via email > the story got published > she doxxed a reporter > vice reported her on patreon > she got banned from patreon
- jack_quack 8y agoThank you everyone for the downvotes and the really great summaries and discussion. Much more entertaining than a he-said she-said!