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First off, I have to say I’m surprised and disappointed at their response. I’ve met members of the Wahoo team at CES and have been using their gear for years, i

First off, I have to say I’m surprised and disappointed at their response. I’ve met members of the Wahoo team at CES and have been using their gear for years, it’s uniformly well-designed and the connectivity is pretty much bulletproof, which is pretty amazing for the glob of IoT gadgetry that is a modern cycling sensor network. I hope they come back with an update. Second, the ELEMNT is a terrific cycling computer, but it’s so optimized for cycling that I expect it would be useless for any other activity. If you want something to use for biking AND hiking, I strongly suggest that you look into a Garmin triathlon watch.

jwise0 8y ago
I was kind of surprised too. I have some conjectures about the internal politics from the output that I observed (super friendly, super helpful support team; development team knew it was an issue, and had orders from above?). And yes, the ELEMNT is an ok cycling computer, but I think with a few bug fixes, it would work 'at least tolerably' for hiking (that is to say, at least as well as the Garmin Edge 510 did). The Edge 510 was not a great hiking computer, but for 'datalogging with a separate battery from my phone, and capable of speaking ANT+ to my heart rate monitor', it at least captured correct data...
- ebikelaw 8y ago
  I'm surprised you thought this thing had more bugs than Garmin. My Garmin randomly inserts week-long periods of time into my bike rides, and I'm not the only one: there is an entire site dedicated to un-ruining your Garmin .fit files at https://www.fitfiletools.com/ https://www.fitfiletools.com/ . The way a Garmin suspends and resumes your ride takes more time as your ride gets longer. At the last rest stop on a 200-mile ride my Garmin spent about 2 minutes just resuming. And you mention that the wahoo gives cues after turns, but my Garmin does that and worse. Garmin gives cues on mountain roads where there's no choice, and fails to give them at the intersection of two roads where you do need to make a choice!
sundvor 8y ago
I'm surprised too about the licenses; just upgraded to a Bolt from the 510 and it's heads and shoulders better than the Garmin. I need to pay attention to my HR when riding, and the LEDs are a godsend. Furthermore the screen is way, way easier to read being a transflective or something like that type. Adding to that, the ride synch just works - something I never, ever would accuse Garmin of.
TarpitCarnivore 8y ago
I found the review a bit odd tbh. It's weird to conclude with "does 10% less" after having pretty much the whole thing breaking down what was running the device. For many cyclists, including myself, the Bolt has been a godsend. Garmin got way too complacent and their stuff began to just run so poorly. People are still looking for Edge 500's because they're so bomb proof. My Edge 510 crashed multiple times on me and equally as many times I needed to manually reset it via deleting stuff off it.

jwise0 8y ago

I was kind of surprised too. I have some conjectures about the internal politics from the output that I observed (super friendly, super helpful support team; development team knew it was an issue, and had orders from above?). And yes, the ELEMNT is an ok cycling computer, but I think with a few bug fixes, it would work 'at least tolerably' for hiking (that is to say, at least as well as the Garmin Edge 510 did). The Edge 510 was not a great hiking computer, but for 'datalogging with a separate battery from my phone, and capable of speaking ANT+ to my heart rate monitor', it at least captured correct data...

ebikelaw 8y ago
I'm surprised you thought this thing had more bugs than Garmin. My Garmin randomly inserts week-long periods of time into my bike rides, and I'm not the only one: there is an entire site dedicated to un-ruining your Garmin .fit files at https://www.fitfiletools.com/ https://www.fitfiletools.com/ . The way a Garmin suspends and resumes your ride takes more time as your ride gets longer. At the last rest stop on a 200-mile ride my Garmin spent about 2 minutes just resuming. And you mention that the wahoo gives cues after turns, but my Garmin does that and worse. Garmin gives cues on mountain roads where there's no choice, and fails to give them at the intersection of two roads where you do need to make a choice!

sundvor 8y ago

I'm surprised too about the licenses; just upgraded to a Bolt from the 510 and it's heads and shoulders better than the Garmin. I need to pay attention to my HR when riding, and the LEDs are a godsend. Furthermore the screen is way, way easier to read being a transflective or something like that type. Adding to that, the ride synch just works - something I never, ever would accuse Garmin of.

TarpitCarnivore 8y ago

I found the review a bit odd tbh. It's weird to conclude with "does 10% less" after having pretty much the whole thing breaking down what was running the device. For many cyclists, including myself, the Bolt has been a godsend. Garmin got way too complacent and their stuff began to just run so poorly. People are still looking for Edge 500's because they're so bomb proof. My Edge 510 crashed multiple times on me and equally as many times I needed to manually reset it via deleting stuff off it.