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"Ça va." translates "It's going well", not "it is". Similarly, "Ça va?" translates to "Is it going well?". It's as meaningless an exchange as most greetings (t
by pnsr 8y ago
"Ça va." translates "It's going well", not "it is".
Similarly, "Ça va?" translates to "Is it going well?".
It's as meaningless an exchange as most greetings (the only meaning being to actually acknowledge and greet the person), but it does mean something literally, and the exchange is technically more complete than when answering "How are you?" with "Hi".
That being said, you'll see someone answering "Salut, ça va?" with "Salut!" quite frequently as well. I would perhaps consider it slightly more of a misstep than in English, but only marginally so.
- bmcfeeley 8y agoThe literal translation of “Ça va” is neither “it is” nor “it goes well”, right? The literal translation is “it goes”. “It goes well” would be “ça va bien”, which is also used for both question and answer parts of a slightly longer standard greeting. This isn’t a big distinction because I agree with both of you about the relative meaninglessness of the content of such a greeting in either language.
- msaltz 8y agoAs a question it does literally translate to “How’s it going?” and then as a response it’s like “It’s going”, but translating common idioms like this completely literally word-by-word doesn’t really make sense. It’s sort of interesting to think about for the same reason that all idioms are interesting, but it’s not very helpful when it comes to translation.
- taeric 8y agoAm I the only one that answers, "how's it going?" With "it goes."? Because I definitely do that. I'd expect that to be a common idiom in any language. Somewhat surprised to read this exchange seeming to suggest otherwise.
- matt-snider 8y agoBut the above commenter is saying it doesn't translate 'literally' to that, but rather, that is the equivalent meaning. The 'literal translation' would be translating word-by-word, which by definition isn't going to work for idioms: > idiom > > A group of words established by usage > as having a meaning not deducible from > those of the individual words Oxford Dictionary
- bmcfeeley 8y agoI don't disagree with you, and in fact I believe the point of the GP to be exactly this -- these idioms' literal interpretations are a bit nonsensical. I was merely trying to point out that I think you two agree.
- toomanybeersies 8y agoWell apparently my French is a bit rusty. "Ça va" translates literally to "it goes". So the above exchange would literally translate to: Hello, it goes? It goes, and you? It goes. I guess it's no more banal than answering "how's it going" with "it's going", which isn't that uncommon for people to say. Answering "how's it going" with "not bad, yourself?" isn't really any better either.
- fjsolwmv 8y agoIs read that as: "keeping on?" "Keeping on, and you?"
- PhasmaFelis 8y agoSeems like you could translate the spirit of that into English pretty reasonably. "Hey, doing well?" "Doing well, and you?" "Doing well."