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cool story incoming: I'm new here, and i was wondering if there would be climate change denier accounts here, just like the shitty news aggregation\commenting s

cool story incoming: I'm new here, and i was wondering if there would be climate change denier accounts here, just like the shitty news aggregation\commenting site that i left behind. sure enough they are here! commenting as they will on how the Titanic is doing 'just fine' and insisting we 'wait and see' how it turns out. i suppose I'm not surprised, but i had hoped things would be different.

discreteevent 8y ago
And as someone commented on a previous thread here, their presence with trolling arguments causes the thread to become 'contentious' so the HN algorithm knocks it off the front page. I've no doubt that for some of the trolls that is the objective. It's a pity because this is probably the most important issue of our time and it's going to take an engineering/scientific approach to solve it - so I think it's highly relevant to HN. There are some sharp minds on here. It should be hotly debated and the ranking algorithm should be able to take the heat.
- ulisesrmzroche 8y ago
  We have the technology and solutions. We’ve had them since the 80s. We need to change the culture to make the necessary sacrifices to get things done but, as you can see, human nature is hard to change.
brian-armstrong 8y ago
It didn't used to be that way. The change happened 2-3 years ago. I think a lot of this ultimately comes down to poliitical polarization - people feel that if they don't agree entirely with progressive policies, then they must be conservative, and the climate change denial follows. I think there has been an effort to "de-Bay Area" hn for better or worse (there was a time when general SF news was somewhat germane and topical here, but no longer)
meiraleal 8y ago
I'm surprised that today I read at least 3 comments and some articles about "denialism". Is it the new frontier of the "fascists against anti-fascists" war? I do believe that there is a lot of things coming from mainstream media we have to dismiss, and it seems some of these things are now been publicly defended against public discredit. The same way the mass media lie to us today, their ancestors lied to ours. It is natural and healthy to pursuit lies of the past, it is a shame that some people are trying to put it as a negative behavior.
tomhoward 8y ago
It's a public forum; people of all points of view are free to comment, but everyone else is free to downvote and flag comments that degrade the thread, which has happened with the comments you've complained about here.

discreteevent 8y ago

And as someone commented on a previous thread here, their presence with trolling arguments causes the thread to become 'contentious' so the HN algorithm knocks it off the front page. I've no doubt that for some of the trolls that is the objective. It's a pity because this is probably the most important issue of our time and it's going to take an engineering/scientific approach to solve it - so I think it's highly relevant to HN. There are some sharp minds on here. It should be hotly debated and the ranking algorithm should be able to take the heat.

ulisesrmzroche 8y ago
We have the technology and solutions. We’ve had them since the 80s. We need to change the culture to make the necessary sacrifices to get things done but, as you can see, human nature is hard to change.

brian-armstrong 8y ago

It didn't used to be that way. The change happened 2-3 years ago. I think a lot of this ultimately comes down to poliitical polarization - people feel that if they don't agree entirely with progressive policies, then they must be conservative, and the climate change denial follows. I think there has been an effort to "de-Bay Area" hn for better or worse (there was a time when general SF news was somewhat germane and topical here, but no longer)

meiraleal 8y ago

I'm surprised that today I read at least 3 comments and some articles about "denialism". Is it the new frontier of the "fascists against anti-fascists" war? I do believe that there is a lot of things coming from mainstream media we have to dismiss, and it seems some of these things are now been publicly defended against public discredit. The same way the mass media lie to us today, their ancestors lied to ours. It is natural and healthy to pursuit lies of the past, it is a shame that some people are trying to put it as a negative behavior.

tomhoward 8y ago

It's a public forum; people of all points of view are free to comment, but everyone else is free to downvote and flag comments that degrade the thread, which has happened with the comments you've complained about here.