I don't disagree with the point you're trying to make. Obviously you have to have a product. But there is no such thing as 'no design.' The opposite of good

I don't disagree with the point you're trying to make. Obviously you have to have a product. But there is no such thing as 'no design.' The opposite of good design isn't 'no design,' it's bad design. The problem with trying to differentiate a product's functionality from its design, is that from a user's perspective, they're the same thing. >You can have a functional site with no design That's the thing. You may have all kinds of killer functionality, but if your design gets in the way of my ability to use it, you effectively don't _have_ a functional site.