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I've decided to honk every time an Uber/Lyft double-parks in front of me. These services, while offering some convenience, are also affirmative action for bad d

I've decided to honk every time an Uber/Lyft double-parks in front of me. These services, while offering some convenience, are also affirmative action for bad drivers. They make everything about driving in the city more annoying, but people who don't have cars and/or don't drive don't seem to appreciate this as they have their driver let them off in the most inopportune places.

yladiz 8y ago
What you've said relates two unrelated things. Drivers who double park suck, but Uber/Lyft drivers aren't the only ones that do. If it makes you feel better just honk at all cars that double park.
- rhizome 8y ago
  Uber/Lyft drivers are the only ones that pull up with their hazards on just as soon as their car is on the far side of the intersection. They're the only ones biding their time in the bike lane waiting for another fare. They aren't the only ones bouncing between the lane lines checking their phones, but that's a little less appropriate for honking. I will flash highbeams at them if they're truly egregious. I know what I'm talking about, I drive, bike, and walk in this city, and I pay attention and I know the laws. And I don't know where you get that this is to make myself "feel better," because my intent is to make these cars' presence uglier for the neighborhoods in which they behave this way.
  - yladiz 8y ago
    The only thing you do by honking your horn at a car in a lane they're taking up is 1) they move if they're not there for a reason or need to be there, or 2) being briefly annoying to the driver, if they're even in the car, which the driver will promptly forget. If you know the laws and see a car breaking a law, then call the police and tell them someone is breaking the law, since it's their responsibility and not yours to police.
    - rhizome 8y ago
      Like I said, it's not so much about them remembering (though that would be nice), it's about providing a memory for those within earshot. If you know the laws and see a car breaking a law, then call the police and tell them someone is breaking the law Do you live in a city with a big gigcar presence? These incidents only last a minute, so other strategies are necessary. FWIW, they are invariably also blocking the bike lane.
tatersolid 8y ago
Taxis in Chicago have done all that and far will worse for decades. Ditto for delivery vans and trucks. Illegal, dangerous, and inconsiderste driving seems to be a general “commercial driver” thing more than just an Uber thing. They think they own the road.
- rhizome 8y ago
  By my estimation, people take a magnitude longer time to get in and out of an Uber. For some reason that I assume is due to a perceived difference between taxis and gigcars: taxis will leave you there if you're not ready, and Uber has to wait for as long as you want to dilly-dally.

yladiz 8y ago

What you've said relates two unrelated things. Drivers who double park suck, but Uber/Lyft drivers aren't the only ones that do. If it makes you feel better just honk at all cars that double park.

rhizome 8y ago
Uber/Lyft drivers are the only ones that pull up with their hazards on just as soon as their car is on the far side of the intersection. They're the only ones biding their time in the bike lane waiting for another fare. They aren't the only ones bouncing between the lane lines checking their phones, but that's a little less appropriate for honking. I will flash highbeams at them if they're truly egregious. I know what I'm talking about, I drive, bike, and walk in this city, and I pay attention and I know the laws. And I don't know where you get that this is to make myself "feel better," because my intent is to make these cars' presence uglier for the neighborhoods in which they behave this way.
- yladiz 8y ago
  The only thing you do by honking your horn at a car in a lane they're taking up is 1) they move if they're not there for a reason or need to be there, or 2) being briefly annoying to the driver, if they're even in the car, which the driver will promptly forget. If you know the laws and see a car breaking a law, then call the police and tell them someone is breaking the law, since it's their responsibility and not yours to police.
  - rhizome 8y ago
    Like I said, it's not so much about them remembering (though that would be nice), it's about providing a memory for those within earshot. If you know the laws and see a car breaking a law, then call the police and tell them someone is breaking the law Do you live in a city with a big gigcar presence? These incidents only last a minute, so other strategies are necessary. FWIW, they are invariably also blocking the bike lane.

tatersolid 8y ago

Taxis in Chicago have done all that and far will worse for decades. Ditto for delivery vans and trucks. Illegal, dangerous, and inconsiderste driving seems to be a general “commercial driver” thing more than just an Uber thing. They think they own the road.

rhizome 8y ago
By my estimation, people take a magnitude longer time to get in and out of an Uber. For some reason that I assume is due to a perceived difference between taxis and gigcars: taxis will leave you there if you're not ready, and Uber has to wait for as long as you want to dilly-dally.