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The best part about Star Trek The Next Generation was the fantastic writing, the focus on science and the guidance of young viewers throughout the series. I bet

The best part about Star Trek The Next Generation was the fantastic writing, the focus on science and the guidance of young viewers throughout the series. I bet there were many people inspired to go into science as a result of the show both TNG and TOS. As much as I enjoyed the other Treks and current Trek they seem almost self-absorbed, caring more for looks and ratings (I guess they have to) than story telling caring about the viewers. DS9 was pretty good but the producers made stupid, spiteful changes near the end, same for Enterprise. You have to wonder what has changed that doesn't allow a series like Star Trek to be itself and instead cater to people seeking only explosions, swearing and banal story lines.

dnautics 8y ago
Rewatching tng from end to end I found myself disappointed that the cast didn't know what they were doing in seasons 1&2 and seemed like they were phoning it in in season 7... There are some truly good episodes in TNG... One of my favorites is "the first duty" which apparently was at some point required viewing at the United States air Force academy. Overall though I like ds9 better because it's a more "honest" look at humanity... But darkness aside there's kind of an optimistic broad character arc/thesis where the good guys each in their own way is on a journey overcoming impostor syndrome (sisko, Kira, odo, Bashir, ezri, Jake, quark, rom, garak, and nog all fit this model to some degree, and even damar when he becomes a good guy basically fits this model), and the bad guys all are brought down by their classical toxic leadership attributes (dukat, Winn, weyoun, FC, but also minors like admiral leyton).
- parenthesis 8y ago
  One of the things I like about TNG is that different people love different episodes. "The First Duty" is one of my least favourite episodes. I love the goofiness and variety of the first two seasons. I like Pulaski. I like it when Wesley saves the ship. I don't particularly like "The Best of Both Worlds". "Who Watches the Watchers" would be one of my absolute favourite episodes.
  - dnautics 8y ago
    WWtW is pretty much my favorite episode of TNG. My favorite goofy episode of trek, though, would have to be "take me out to the holosuite", because it turns the goofy underdog sports movie on its head. (incidentally, thinking about the episode, sisko's interaction with his team serves as a microcosm of the thesis I have about DS9 as a whole in my parent comment)
untog 8y ago
I've actually enjoyed Discovery quite a lot. I think it's easy to see the old series through rose tinted glasses and forget the extremely subpar episodes, focusing only on the best. In my opinion Discovery has been inconsistent, but far less so than, say, the first season of TNG. That said, I'm still irate they set it in the past. There's no reason for it - even the tech that forms a major plot point feels generations beyond Voyager! I hope this new Picard show is something entirely different. Given that it'll air alongside Discovery I see no reason for it to be another "explore the galaxy" setup.
- nikanj 8y ago
  Does Discovery eventually stop being Action Trek? I watched the first episodes, and it seemed to be grimdark filled with lousy people. TNG showed an evolved mankind, valuing such obscure things as kindness, non-violent solutions, and generally not being asshole.
  - preek 8y ago
    It doesn’t. I’m 35 and have seen TNG three times in my lifetime. The last time I saw Discovery immediately afterwards. My fiancé insisted on stopping the series. I pulled myself through, alone. It got worse every episode. One of the worst series I have ever seen.
- dghughes 8y ago
  I've only seen a few episodes due to my viewing options. In Canada it's on broadcast TV but it is bumped sometimes or I wasn't available. The TV station also streams episodes but it's at 480p or lower on the Web and it's interrupted every five minutes with three minute long ads, plus you can't jump ahead or back. It's also available on CraveTV streaming service but that streaming company is terribly buggy. But I can see myself liking Discovery (I've heard never call it STD) if I can get into a pattern of being able to watch it in sequence.

dnautics 8y ago

Rewatching tng from end to end I found myself disappointed that the cast didn't know what they were doing in seasons 1&2 and seemed like they were phoning it in in season 7... There are some truly good episodes in TNG... One of my favorites is "the first duty" which apparently was at some point required viewing at the United States air Force academy. Overall though I like ds9 better because it's a more "honest" look at humanity... But darkness aside there's kind of an optimistic broad character arc/thesis where the good guys each in their own way is on a journey overcoming impostor syndrome (sisko, Kira, odo, Bashir, ezri, Jake, quark, rom, garak, and nog all fit this model to some degree, and even damar when he becomes a good guy basically fits this model), and the bad guys all are brought down by their classical toxic leadership attributes (dukat, Winn, weyoun, FC, but also minors like admiral leyton).

parenthesis 8y ago
One of the things I like about TNG is that different people love different episodes. "The First Duty" is one of my least favourite episodes. I love the goofiness and variety of the first two seasons. I like Pulaski. I like it when Wesley saves the ship. I don't particularly like "The Best of Both Worlds". "Who Watches the Watchers" would be one of my absolute favourite episodes.
- dnautics 8y ago
  WWtW is pretty much my favorite episode of TNG. My favorite goofy episode of trek, though, would have to be "take me out to the holosuite", because it turns the goofy underdog sports movie on its head. (incidentally, thinking about the episode, sisko's interaction with his team serves as a microcosm of the thesis I have about DS9 as a whole in my parent comment)

untog 8y ago

I've actually enjoyed Discovery quite a lot. I think it's easy to see the old series through rose tinted glasses and forget the extremely subpar episodes, focusing only on the best. In my opinion Discovery has been inconsistent, but far less so than, say, the first season of TNG. That said, I'm still irate they set it in the past. There's no reason for it - even the tech that forms a major plot point feels generations beyond Voyager! I hope this new Picard show is something entirely different. Given that it'll air alongside Discovery I see no reason for it to be another "explore the galaxy" setup.

nikanj 8y ago
Does Discovery eventually stop being Action Trek? I watched the first episodes, and it seemed to be grimdark filled with lousy people. TNG showed an evolved mankind, valuing such obscure things as kindness, non-violent solutions, and generally not being asshole.
- preek 8y ago
  It doesn’t. I’m 35 and have seen TNG three times in my lifetime. The last time I saw Discovery immediately afterwards. My fiancé insisted on stopping the series. I pulled myself through, alone. It got worse every episode. One of the worst series I have ever seen.
dghughes 8y ago
I've only seen a few episodes due to my viewing options. In Canada it's on broadcast TV but it is bumped sometimes or I wasn't available. The TV station also streams episodes but it's at 480p or lower on the Web and it's interrupted every five minutes with three minute long ads, plus you can't jump ahead or back. It's also available on CraveTV streaming service but that streaming company is terribly buggy. But I can see myself liking Discovery (I've heard never call it STD) if I can get into a pattern of being able to watch it in sequence.