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The media dramatically misinforms us about Venezuela: https://youtu.be/_fV-C1Ag5sI https://youtu.be/_fV-C1Ag5sI And calls for war with "humour". I must be ol

The media dramatically misinforms us about Venezuela: https://youtu.be/_fV-C1Ag5sI https://youtu.be/_fV-C1Ag5sI And calls for war with "humour". I must be old, but it looks similar to me as the "humour" that Germany had before invading Poland.

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nonbel 8y ago
I was interested in whatever his point was, and I can see why including some video from the show is helpful since thats whats being referenced. However, it just takes too long for video to convey the info. Just not the right format to keep my attention. EDIT: And no, adding more "excitement" to the video is not going to help
- lozenge 8y ago
  YouTube pays more for longer videos, hence the format of making a point repeatedly and only adding new information as rarely as possible during the video.
  - nonbel 8y ago
    This is very relevant, thanks.
- peterlk 8y ago
  What would the right format be? There's a lot of information in there, and I think one of the things that the video does well is expanding out soundbites
  - nonbel 8y ago
    Basically the format of a scholarly article with summary, intro/background, evidence (+ methods), interpretation, authors conclusion. The videos under discussion here would be part of "evidence". I need to be able to skip around to see if there is something there to pique my interest. Having to wait through the video to even find out what exactly this will be about is just too slow so I closed it.
bcoates 8y ago
You don't need vast conspiracy of hoarders, wreckers, saboteurs and kulaks to explain John Oliver not caring about getting facts right (on any subject).
Zooper 8y ago
Yes, it's important to note that the "Right" in Venezuela, aided by the US, is the most likely culprit in these assassination attempts. This is the same "Right" that has a monopoly on certain foodstocks, such as butter and flour and has been stock-piling them, while the US media reports on food shortages as a socialist problem.
- nonbel 8y ago
  >"This is the same "Right" that has a monopoly on certain foodstocks, such as butter and flour and has been stock-piling them" I don't know the details but is "the right" being conflated with some form of "prepper" here? Eg people who saw these shortages coming started stockpiling resources and people who trusted the government would figure things out, or didnt have the means to stockpile, didnt do so?
- bcoates 8y ago
  In a country with nationalized agriculture. With a socialist government for the last 19 years. Did Chavez and Maduro forget to redistribute all the wheat and dairy when doing their land reform? Where exactly are these kulaks getting their butter and flour to hoard? Why have the PSUV and Maduro's planned economy not decreed their monopoly over?
  - kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
    How does one even stockpile butter? You can't hold onto it indefinitely waiting for more favorable market conditions. The butter is either available or not. If not, the socialist government has screwed up.
wonthegame 8y ago
Wow! Is this criticism actually real!? Or is this a conspiracy video? In the past I found John Oliver humorous but I've recently noticed his bias and how he conveniently ignores certain facts in order to make a joke. I would add that the opposition may fear for their lives and may want to avoid appearing in public near Maduro supporters. MSM tries very hard to make Venezuela appear to be like Russia - a sham democracy.
pg_bot 8y ago
I find it shocking that anyone can defend the government of Venezuela with a straight face. The country is demonstrably worse today than it was before Chavez was elected. 90% of the country now lives in poverty, inflation is likely to reach 1,000,000% this year (not a typo), infant mortality rates are soaring, Caracas has the highest murder rate in the world, and the average Venezuelan lost 11 kilograms in weight during 2017. The blame for this situation rests solely on the shoulders of the Venezuelan government. They created a house of cards when they nationalized the PDVSA and coupled their entire country to a single commodity. Like all toxic people they wish to blame someone else for their problems, in this case the United States. For those who believe the United States is to blame for all of their problems how do you reconcile the fact that the US is still their largest trading partner. Have you read any of the sanctions that the US has placed on Venezuela? I'll link you to them, each runs about 2 pages each.[0] How do financial sanctions targeted at 7 government officials in 2015 explain a country collapsing in 2013? Does toilet paper production run on time travel? [0]: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/venezuela.aspx https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/...
lecarore 8y ago
Please note the journalist talking in this video is working for a website that's part of a Venezuelan state funded media outlet. It's interesting to get some opposing views, but the truth ous probably somewhere in the middle.

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nonbel 8y ago

I was interested in whatever his point was, and I can see why including some video from the show is helpful since thats whats being referenced. However, it just takes too long for video to convey the info. Just not the right format to keep my attention. EDIT: And no, adding more "excitement" to the video is not going to help

lozenge 8y ago
YouTube pays more for longer videos, hence the format of making a point repeatedly and only adding new information as rarely as possible during the video.
- nonbel 8y ago
  This is very relevant, thanks.
peterlk 8y ago
What would the right format be? There's a lot of information in there, and I think one of the things that the video does well is expanding out soundbites
- nonbel 8y ago
  Basically the format of a scholarly article with summary, intro/background, evidence (+ methods), interpretation, authors conclusion. The videos under discussion here would be part of "evidence". I need to be able to skip around to see if there is something there to pique my interest. Having to wait through the video to even find out what exactly this will be about is just too slow so I closed it.

bcoates 8y ago

You don't need vast conspiracy of hoarders, wreckers, saboteurs and kulaks to explain John Oliver not caring about getting facts right (on any subject).

Zooper 8y ago

Yes, it's important to note that the "Right" in Venezuela, aided by the US, is the most likely culprit in these assassination attempts. This is the same "Right" that has a monopoly on certain foodstocks, such as butter and flour and has been stock-piling them, while the US media reports on food shortages as a socialist problem.

nonbel 8y ago
>"This is the same "Right" that has a monopoly on certain foodstocks, such as butter and flour and has been stock-piling them" I don't know the details but is "the right" being conflated with some form of "prepper" here? Eg people who saw these shortages coming started stockpiling resources and people who trusted the government would figure things out, or didnt have the means to stockpile, didnt do so?
bcoates 8y ago
In a country with nationalized agriculture. With a socialist government for the last 19 years. Did Chavez and Maduro forget to redistribute all the wheat and dairy when doing their land reform? Where exactly are these kulaks getting their butter and flour to hoard? Why have the PSUV and Maduro's planned economy not decreed their monopoly over?
- kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
  How does one even stockpile butter? You can't hold onto it indefinitely waiting for more favorable market conditions. The butter is either available or not. If not, the socialist government has screwed up.

wonthegame 8y ago

Wow! Is this criticism actually real!? Or is this a conspiracy video? In the past I found John Oliver humorous but I've recently noticed his bias and how he conveniently ignores certain facts in order to make a joke. I would add that the opposition may fear for their lives and may want to avoid appearing in public near Maduro supporters. MSM tries very hard to make Venezuela appear to be like Russia - a sham democracy.

pg_bot 8y ago

I find it shocking that anyone can defend the government of Venezuela with a straight face. The country is demonstrably worse today than it was before Chavez was elected. 90% of the country now lives in poverty, inflation is likely to reach 1,000,000% this year (not a typo), infant mortality rates are soaring, Caracas has the highest murder rate in the world, and the average Venezuelan lost 11 kilograms in weight during 2017. The blame for this situation rests solely on the shoulders of the Venezuelan government. They created a house of cards when they nationalized the PDVSA and coupled their entire country to a single commodity. Like all toxic people they wish to blame someone else for their problems, in this case the United States. For those who believe the United States is to blame for all of their problems how do you reconcile the fact that the US is still their largest trading partner. Have you read any of the sanctions that the US has placed on Venezuela? I'll link you to them, each runs about 2 pages each.[0] How do financial sanctions targeted at 7 government officials in 2015 explain a country collapsing in 2013? Does toilet paper production run on time travel? [0]: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/venezuela.aspx https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/...

lecarore 8y ago

Please note the journalist talking in this video is working for a website that's part of a Venezuelan state funded media outlet. It's interesting to get some opposing views, but the truth ous probably somewhere in the middle.