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But that’s a different argument you’re making. For many people, routing the browsers DNS via a secure channel is a substantial improvement. You’re still free to
by Xylakant 8y ago
But that’s a different argument you’re making. For many people, routing the browsers DNS via a secure channel is a substantial improvement. You’re still free to route all your network DNS via DoH, there’s software for that. But until DoH is the operating systems default (or at least a non-expert option), this can be a viable improvement.
- ahnick 8y agoYes. If it's opt-in, then I can certainly live with it and I understand why people might use it. I'm just pointing out that features like these, while well intentioned, still add bloat to the browser. Sometimes saying no to feature inclusion is the right thing to do in the long term even if it has a use in the short term. I'm a big believer of the Unix philosophy of do one thing and do it well.
- kiriakasis 8y agoModern browser are basically OSes not by coincidence but because they are basically used as OS replacement. I think Tanenbaum (citation needed) wrote that an OS basically does two things: abstracting the HW and managing resources. Browsers do the latter as much as an OS
- _Codemonkeyism 8y agoFor many it is, but for billions it isn't. For those where it is an improvement they can opt in.
- Xylakant 8y agoI think you substantially overestimate the number of providers that behave ethically with regards to DNS and substantially underestimate how many people have shitty ISPs. You seem to have a very skewed view of how the number of internet users distributes across the world. Even in Europe, providers are not refraining from hijacking DNS and using DNS blocks for certain sites.
- vetinari 8y agoI think you substantially underestimate the number of networks that use split-horizon DNS for their functioning, and where hijacking the DNS is going to cause significant breakage.
- kiriakasis 8y agoWhich are almost zero home network of non technical users
- vetinari 8y agoI've never seen any marketing materials, where Mozilla limits themselves to non technical users with zero home network. Did you?
- kiriakasis 8y agoNo, but they do exist and specifically in this case (since they mention public wifi) pro users capable of configuring their system dns might not be the only target audience
- vetinari 8y agoSo make it active only for public wifi, or whatever is labeled as public network by the operating system or firewall? Certainly not all networks.