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maybe consider trying a static language?

by juststeve 8y ago

hluska 8y ago
What static language would you recommend? I figure the choices are basically Java or C#. Of the two, I'd likely suggest that Java will be easier only because I think beginners might find .Net a little large to dive into. But I wouldn't call Java a particular compact language that would be good for teaching someone to think like a programmer. What do you think?
- tudelo 8y ago
  The worst language to teach someone as a first language has to be Java. It also might be the worst language to teach someone as a second language.
  - hluska 8y ago
    Java gives me a rash, so writing that last comment took every last bit of restraint I had. But, I still can't come up with a static language that I'd want to teach someone as a first language. C# would be a good choice, but I don't know how much success a beginner would have with .Net. Typescript is hard to debug unless you know Javascript. I wouldn't wish C++ as a first languge upon anyone. Haskell seems like it would be very frustrating for a beginner. Swift might be okay if they really badly wanted to go mobile, but that's not the case here. Rust is the best I can come up with, though it seems like a tough first language. Do you have any ideas? I see the value of learning static first, but can't come up with a good language!
    - tudelo 8y ago
      Well, I guess if your goal was to learn a statically typed programming language Java or C# would be fine. So I don't disagree with you. Personally, I have been in the role of teaching people programming, and I have seen what Java does to them. And I remember what it was like when I first encountered it. So, I don't have a better suggestion if that is the goal. But if the goal is to learn programming, I have plenty to say on that. I worked as a TA for 3 years and from my rather biased experience, I would highly recommend HtDP and Racket.

4 ms·

maybe consider trying a static language?

by juststeve 8y ago

maybe consider trying a static language?

hluska 8y ago
What static language would you recommend? I figure the choices are basically Java or C#. Of the two, I'd likely suggest that Java will be easier only because I think beginners might find .Net a little large to dive into. But I wouldn't call Java a particular compact language that would be good for teaching someone to think like a programmer. What do you think?
- tudelo 8y ago
  The worst language to teach someone as a first language has to be Java. It also might be the worst language to teach someone as a second language.
  - hluska 8y ago
    Java gives me a rash, so writing that last comment took every last bit of restraint I had. But, I still can't come up with a static language that I'd want to teach someone as a first language. C# would be a good choice, but I don't know how much success a beginner would have with .Net. Typescript is hard to debug unless you know Javascript. I wouldn't wish C++ as a first languge upon anyone. Haskell seems like it would be very frustrating for a beginner. Swift might be okay if they really badly wanted to go mobile, but that's not the case here. Rust is the best I can come up with, though it seems like a tough first language. Do you have any ideas? I see the value of learning static first, but can't come up with a good language!
    - tudelo 8y ago
      Well, I guess if your goal was to learn a statically typed programming language Java or C# would be fine. So I don't disagree with you. Personally, I have been in the role of teaching people programming, and I have seen what Java does to them. And I remember what it was like when I first encountered it. So, I don't have a better suggestion if that is the goal. But if the goal is to learn programming, I have plenty to say on that. I worked as a TA for 3 years and from my rather biased experience, I would highly recommend HtDP and Racket.