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Not the person you asked but yes, yes I do. For me anything above 21 C (~70 F) and sunny is uncomfortable miserable for me. I am serious. Everybody seems to en

Not the person you asked but yes, yes I do. For me anything above 21 C (~70 F) and sunny is uncomfortable miserable for me. I am serious. Everybody seems to enjoy the sunlight and talk about how depressed they get in the winters when it’s dark but I have the exact 100% opposite. During the summers I can’t go outside. Like, it’s not physically impossible and I can tolerate going outside long enough to walk to the store and so on, but the thought of “enjoying my time outside in the warm summer sun” elucidates the same thoughts that you’d get if I asked you to stick your hand inside a garbage disposal. I’m not even being hyperbolic right now. The thought of being outside when it’s sunny and 21+ degrees seriously shuts me down entirely. I’m basically depressed all summer and spring because of the sun, because of the temperature. I’m depressed because it means I cant go outside and enjoy the things I enjoy in the fall and winter: going on long bike rides, trail running, hiking and camping, etc. For whatever reason, the moment the bright sun shines in my face or the first bead of sweat beads up on my body I just 100% shut down. Nothing is fun anymore. Nothing is enjoyable anymore. I’ve spoken with several therapists to try to get some help with this and nothing people say or tell me has helped. It doesn’t help that everybody things I’m just being a big baby either. But come fall and winter, I f-king love live. I love waking up before the sun rises and getting in a nice 30 minute run in the dark. I love getting into work when it’s dark and leaving work when it’s dark. I love walking around town or visiting nearby cities (Europe) in the winter because I’m not sweating the entire time. I love feeling the super cold wind hit me as I’m cycling long 20+ km rides. In the spring and summer I love being outside on the days when it’s overcast, gray, raining aka “depressing weather.” It doesn’t bother me at all. I love looking outside my office windows or my living room window and seeing gray clouds all day every day. In the winters I can wear T-shirt’s down to ~5 C, and I can wear just a hoodie and jeans down to the negatives as long as I have gloves. I would love it if I could stand being in the sun, being in the warmth, but I can’t and I’ve tried. Like a lot of people have wrote: you can always wear more clothes. You can always light the place up. You can always use an umbrella. What can I do when it’s unbearbly hot and sunny and I’m already wearing shorts and a T-shirt? Absolutely nothing.

orhmeh09 8y ago
What are your thoughts on the environmental impact?
- expounded 8y ago
  I separate all of my trash and recycle everything I’m able to. Food waste is composted. I haven’t used plastic bags in years and I’ve been asking for no straws since before it came into the news now. I don’t own a car. I ride my bike everywhere I’m able to and otherwise I take public transit. I’m a vegetarian for environmental reasons. I don’t own a clothes dryer because the sun works just as well. As I said I think it’s wasteful especially cause I can’t seal my windows. But if you read my post then you’d see that my limit of caring stops when I’m sweating in my bed at 11pm at night because it’s still 30+ despite me being on the ground floor.
  - orhmeh09 8y ago
    Thank you for your response. Not that I’m an arbiter or these things but I think you are perceptive of your impact and what you can do to minimize it to a much greater degree than most, and we’d all be better off if more of us in the developed world were as thoughtful.
spacehome 8y ago
Are you overweight?
- expounded 8y ago
  So you assume I’m overweight because I can’t stand the same temperatures you can? I’m not even going to answer that. Go f yourself.
  - llampx 8y ago
    To be fair, there was a question and not an assumption. An assumption would be, "I bet you are overweight."
    - greedo 8y ago
      The implications of the question were pretty clear.
      - spacehome 8y ago
        It's certainly true that overweight people tend to run a little warmer. It's just a brute consequence of more insulation. We are not abstract thinking machines, but rather embedded in the physical world. My weight has fluctuated over the years, and when I'm carrying more pounds, I definitely notice that temperatures I used to feel comfortable at now cause me discomfort. As for the implication. I really didn't imply anything. I have no idea of expounded's weight. Being overweight would be one explanation of his experience, but not the only one. I didn't know, so I asked. It certainly seems to be a touchy subject for him or her.
- dang 8y ago
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skriticos2 8y ago
Sounds like you are a bit on the far end of the spectrum, but I can definitely relate. I tend to feel miserable too when it's getting too bright and warm. I don't personally mind short warm bursts when I'm sitting in a sauna and getting a frigid soaking afterwards, but I do tend to sweat and it's really very annoying having to wear cloth during an office day that that are soaked - and my skin also hates me for it. I also tend to feel immediately miserable when I get direct sunshine on my head, which is why I tend to wear a hat - though that makes the sweating issue worse. I kind of enjoy the time of my commute the most where I can set the AC as I please and put on some fairly dark driving sunglasses while listening to a book. Peaceful and comfortable time that is. I also got a set of office glasses with some 50% shading and a blue light filter for those places that insist on 1500 Lumen/m2 brightness. I concur about the lack of understanding of a lot of people for these issues. "Sun is good, stop whining" is really irritating. People are different, not every one likes ice cream, bright light/sun, waking up early, etc.
tangentspace 8y ago
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience, it does help to understand and empathize with the breadth of human experiences. I don't think the point of the building in this article was to force warmer temperatures on everybody. It sounded more like an experiment in increasing airflow. I think it would be most beneficial if they could work out a way to keep temperatures lower without sacrificing the air flow. As an engineer, I firmly believe that innovation is driven through the process of starting with an experiment, discovering weak points, and steadily iterating to mitigate the weaknesses without sacrificing the advantages. But this process must be firmly grounded in a deep understanding of experiences of end-users who interact with the product, and the core objective should be improving quality of life, accounting for the variability in what that means to different people.
spacehome 8y ago
OK.

orhmeh09 8y ago

What are your thoughts on the environmental impact?

expounded 8y ago
I separate all of my trash and recycle everything I’m able to. Food waste is composted. I haven’t used plastic bags in years and I’ve been asking for no straws since before it came into the news now. I don’t own a car. I ride my bike everywhere I’m able to and otherwise I take public transit. I’m a vegetarian for environmental reasons. I don’t own a clothes dryer because the sun works just as well. As I said I think it’s wasteful especially cause I can’t seal my windows. But if you read my post then you’d see that my limit of caring stops when I’m sweating in my bed at 11pm at night because it’s still 30+ despite me being on the ground floor.
- orhmeh09 8y ago
  Thank you for your response. Not that I’m an arbiter or these things but I think you are perceptive of your impact and what you can do to minimize it to a much greater degree than most, and we’d all be better off if more of us in the developed world were as thoughtful.

spacehome 8y ago

Are you overweight?

expounded 8y ago
So you assume I’m overweight because I can’t stand the same temperatures you can? I’m not even going to answer that. Go f yourself.
- llampx 8y ago
  To be fair, there was a question and not an assumption. An assumption would be, "I bet you are overweight."
  - greedo 8y ago
    The implications of the question were pretty clear.
    - spacehome 8y ago
      It's certainly true that overweight people tend to run a little warmer. It's just a brute consequence of more insulation. We are not abstract thinking machines, but rather embedded in the physical world. My weight has fluctuated over the years, and when I'm carrying more pounds, I definitely notice that temperatures I used to feel comfortable at now cause me discomfort. As for the implication. I really didn't imply anything. I have no idea of expounded's weight. Being overweight would be one explanation of his experience, but not the only one. I didn't know, so I asked. It certainly seems to be a touchy subject for him or her.
dang 8y ago
This violates the site guidelines. Please review them and follow the rules when posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- 8y ago

skriticos2 8y ago

Sounds like you are a bit on the far end of the spectrum, but I can definitely relate. I tend to feel miserable too when it's getting too bright and warm. I don't personally mind short warm bursts when I'm sitting in a sauna and getting a frigid soaking afterwards, but I do tend to sweat and it's really very annoying having to wear cloth during an office day that that are soaked - and my skin also hates me for it. I also tend to feel immediately miserable when I get direct sunshine on my head, which is why I tend to wear a hat - though that makes the sweating issue worse. I kind of enjoy the time of my commute the most where I can set the AC as I please and put on some fairly dark driving sunglasses while listening to a book. Peaceful and comfortable time that is. I also got a set of office glasses with some 50% shading and a blue light filter for those places that insist on 1500 Lumen/m2 brightness. I concur about the lack of understanding of a lot of people for these issues. "Sun is good, stop whining" is really irritating. People are different, not every one likes ice cream, bright light/sun, waking up early, etc.

tangentspace 8y ago

Thanks for taking the time to share your experience, it does help to understand and empathize with the breadth of human experiences. I don't think the point of the building in this article was to force warmer temperatures on everybody. It sounded more like an experiment in increasing airflow. I think it would be most beneficial if they could work out a way to keep temperatures lower without sacrificing the air flow. As an engineer, I firmly believe that innovation is driven through the process of starting with an experiment, discovering weak points, and steadily iterating to mitigate the weaknesses without sacrificing the advantages. But this process must be firmly grounded in a deep understanding of experiences of end-users who interact with the product, and the core objective should be improving quality of life, accounting for the variability in what that means to different people.

spacehome 8y ago

OK.