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You beat it because: thems the rules son. They decided, not me.

ratacat 8y ago
The more interesting question in that case, is why play it at all, if you're going to take all the life out of it only you demonstrate a hollow win.
- quickthrower2 8y ago
  Why is it a hollow win? Does castling or forking in chess make it a hollow win?
  - arrrg 8y ago
    What’s hollow or not is about context. Chess is very serious, The Minds is not very serious. If things are less serious and also more squishy when it comes to the rules (despite the very absolute “no communication” rule I do think that some talking in The Mind doesn’t immediately destroy the experience and if you find a happy medium and approach with the group you are playing with it can even enhance the experience) then I would generalize that it’s in general easier for wins to be hollow, because there is more room to “cheat” in ways that ruin the experience.
- Kiro 8y ago
  It's not taking any life out of it since that's how you are supposed to beat it. It's not a hollow win, it's the real win.
  - arrrg 8y ago
    The rules explicitly state that you shouldn’t count seconds … this presumably also includes using a clock as reference. It’s given as a guideline (in the optional to read spoilery upside down box on the rules that explains that it’s a game all about timing), not an actual rule, but that still completely contradicts your statement that “that's how you are supposed to beat it”.
paganel 8y ago
Not everyone plays games in order to win them, the “spirit of the game”, the fun, the camaraderie, is often times more important and it’s what one will remember in 20 or 30 years’ time, not the fact that on that particular night he/she won a specific game.
- thrav 8y ago
  This is like this guy I played Golden Eye with once who had one place on the map between the body armor and the best gun and refused to move from the spot. Said the point is to employ the optimal strategy to win, right? I set the control down on the other half of the map, and he goes, “I guess it’s a stalemate, and I’m in the lead, do you surrender?” Cracked me up. I said no and started walking in small circles. Then when he’d finally gotten tired and started coming out, I knew the maps well enough that I was always as far away from him as possible. Said the point is not to lose, right? Then he quit.

The more interesting question in that case, is why play it at all, if you're going to take all the life out of it only you demonstrate a hollow win.

quickthrower2 8y ago
Why is it a hollow win? Does castling or forking in chess make it a hollow win?
- arrrg 8y ago
  What’s hollow or not is about context. Chess is very serious, The Minds is not very serious. If things are less serious and also more squishy when it comes to the rules (despite the very absolute “no communication” rule I do think that some talking in The Mind doesn’t immediately destroy the experience and if you find a happy medium and approach with the group you are playing with it can even enhance the experience) then I would generalize that it’s in general easier for wins to be hollow, because there is more room to “cheat” in ways that ruin the experience.
Kiro 8y ago
It's not taking any life out of it since that's how you are supposed to beat it. It's not a hollow win, it's the real win.
- arrrg 8y ago
  The rules explicitly state that you shouldn’t count seconds … this presumably also includes using a clock as reference. It’s given as a guideline (in the optional to read spoilery upside down box on the rules that explains that it’s a game all about timing), not an actual rule, but that still completely contradicts your statement that “that's how you are supposed to beat it”.

paganel 8y ago

Not everyone plays games in order to win them, the “spirit of the game”, the fun, the camaraderie, is often times more important and it’s what one will remember in 20 or 30 years’ time, not the fact that on that particular night he/she won a specific game.

thrav 8y ago
This is like this guy I played Golden Eye with once who had one place on the map between the body armor and the best gun and refused to move from the spot. Said the point is to employ the optimal strategy to win, right? I set the control down on the other half of the map, and he goes, “I guess it’s a stalemate, and I’m in the lead, do you surrender?” Cracked me up. I said no and started walking in small circles. Then when he’d finally gotten tired and started coming out, I knew the maps well enough that I was always as far away from him as possible. Said the point is not to lose, right? Then he quit.