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Why neovim is better than vim (2015)

28 points by rdegges 8y ago

blackbrokkoli 8y ago
It should be mentioned that the author has very strong conflict of interest. Also, isn't the appeal of vim that it's universal rather than that it's beautifully coded? I don't have the expertise to care about weird indentation in source code personally but I like that the text editor I have on my daily-use machine is probably also accessible on a 80's-era server on the other side of the world...
- Justsignedup 8y ago
  Vim being universal is pretty meh. Try using vanilla vim, you'd hate it after using non-vanilla for a while. It is like a whole different world. At that point why not just use sublime or w/e.
seanhunter 8y ago
I have changed over to neovim for most of my editing, but the one thing I have found is that it seems much slower to start up. Pretty sure this is a bug they'll fix soon, and other than that it's really pretty great. I don't actually use the Terminal window feature, but there are a few things about it that I like: 1)Decent python2 and 3 support (yes both at the same time) 2)Getting the * and + registers to actually work seems less annoying than in regular vim (ymmv at least I don't have to rebuild neovim from source to get these). (check out :he quoteplus and :he quotestar if you don't know - these are awesome)
nicolashahn 8y ago
Author claims that vanilla vim would never support async linters, but that's changed now: https://github.com/w0rp/ale https://github.com/w0rp/ale
- hayd 8y ago
  Would it exist in vim without neovim. The landscape has changed, but part of that is due to neovim's existence.
- icc97 8y ago
  Also neomake (https://github.com/neomake/neomake https://github.com/neomake/neomake) is supported in Vim 7.4+ too, with the async features available from v8+
vr46 8y ago
Have used Neovim exclusively for a few years now and I can’t say I need to switch back. It is Vim now.
- proginthebox 8y ago
  how do you integrate neovim clipboard with system one? I use KDE/X11 although I do not think that should be relevant.
  - jvanderbot 8y ago
    I just pipe lines to xsel. Not elegant, but works.

28 points by rdegges 8y ago

It should be mentioned that the author has very strong conflict of interest. Also, isn't the appeal of vim that it's universal rather than that it's beautifully coded? I don't have the expertise to care about weird indentation in source code personally but I like that the text editor I have on my daily-use machine is probably also accessible on a 80's-era server on the other side of the world...

Justsignedup 8y ago
Vim being universal is pretty meh. Try using vanilla vim, you'd hate it after using non-vanilla for a while. It is like a whole different world. At that point why not just use sublime or w/e.

seanhunter 8y ago

I have changed over to neovim for most of my editing, but the one thing I have found is that it seems much slower to start up. Pretty sure this is a bug they'll fix soon, and other than that it's really pretty great. I don't actually use the Terminal window feature, but there are a few things about it that I like: 1)Decent python2 and 3 support (yes both at the same time) 2)Getting the * and + registers to actually work seems less annoying than in regular vim (ymmv at least I don't have to rebuild neovim from source to get these). (check out :he quoteplus and :he quotestar if you don't know - these are awesome)

nicolashahn 8y ago

Author claims that vanilla vim would never support async linters, but that's changed now: https://github.com/w0rp/ale https://github.com/w0rp/ale

hayd 8y ago
Would it exist in vim without neovim. The landscape has changed, but part of that is due to neovim's existence.
icc97 8y ago
Also neomake (https://github.com/neomake/neomake https://github.com/neomake/neomake) is supported in Vim 7.4+ too, with the async features available from v8+

vr46 8y ago

Have used Neovim exclusively for a few years now and I can’t say I need to switch back. It is Vim now.

proginthebox 8y ago
how do you integrate neovim clipboard with system one? I use KDE/X11 although I do not think that should be relevant.
- jvanderbot 8y ago
  I just pipe lines to xsel. Not elegant, but works.