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The core function of a web browser shouldn't be to pretty print JSON either, yet they recently added that feature in core. I understand getting rid of XUL lega

The core function of a web browser shouldn't be to pretty print JSON either, yet they recently added that feature in core. I understand getting rid of XUL legacy cruft, but removing the RSS renderer/reader entirely with no plan other than "extensions will fix it" just leaves a bad taste.

pvorb 8y ago
All browsers have been pretty-printing XML for a while. Adding JSON was long overdue. It might not be a core functionality of a browser, but all major browser vendors now accept that browsers are also development tools.
gpm 8y ago
One of the core features of web browsers is web development tools. Pretty printing JSON is a extremely useful and versatile web development tool, and as such I consider it in scope.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  The core feature of a browser is browsing. Web dev tools are secondary. To a regular user who is not dev the removal of RSS is a loss. JSON is secondary. Firefox would make a mistake if they prioritized Dev tools over end user features.
  - tylerhou 8y ago
    How many regular users actually use RSS? To be honest, I don't think most devs use RSS, much less non-devs. Mozilla has a finite budget to allocate to features. Maybe they looked at usage rates and decided that RSS just wasn't an important feature, or other features were more important.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
      How many regular users use JSON or other development tools?
      - tylerhou 8y ago
        Very few, but I bet there's an order of magnitude more developers who regularly view JSON in a browser than RSS in a browser (without extensions).
- jarfil 8y ago
  There is a separate "Firefox Developer Edition" for that.
  - gpm 8y ago
    I'm strongly in favor of anything that makes it easier for non developers to "see behind the scenes" into computers, so while developer edition is nice and all I don't consider it a strong reason not to include development tools in regular firefox.
- guelo 8y ago
  Believe it or not JSON is not the only data transfer format used on the web. Some web services even spit out XML, crazy I know.

pvorb 8y ago

All browsers have been pretty-printing XML for a while. Adding JSON was long overdue. It might not be a core functionality of a browser, but all major browser vendors now accept that browsers are also development tools.

gpm 8y ago

One of the core features of web browsers is web development tools. Pretty printing JSON is a extremely useful and versatile web development tool, and as such I consider it in scope.

maxxxxx 8y ago
The core feature of a browser is browsing. Web dev tools are secondary. To a regular user who is not dev the removal of RSS is a loss. JSON is secondary. Firefox would make a mistake if they prioritized Dev tools over end user features.
- tylerhou 8y ago
  How many regular users actually use RSS? To be honest, I don't think most devs use RSS, much less non-devs. Mozilla has a finite budget to allocate to features. Maybe they looked at usage rates and decided that RSS just wasn't an important feature, or other features were more important.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
    How many regular users use JSON or other development tools?
    - tylerhou 8y ago
      Very few, but I bet there's an order of magnitude more developers who regularly view JSON in a browser than RSS in a browser (without extensions).
jarfil 8y ago
There is a separate "Firefox Developer Edition" for that.
- gpm 8y ago
  I'm strongly in favor of anything that makes it easier for non developers to "see behind the scenes" into computers, so while developer edition is nice and all I don't consider it a strong reason not to include development tools in regular firefox.
guelo 8y ago
Believe it or not JSON is not the only data transfer format used on the web. Some web services even spit out XML, crazy I know.