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So sad these people are down voting you. IMNSHO if most 5 year old can do it, it's not art. If you insist it is art, fine, it is very shitty art. Very good co

So sad these people are down voting you. IMNSHO if most 5 year old can do it, it's not art. If you insist it is art, fine, it is very shitty art. Very good confidence trick though!

moate 8y ago
If the intention of art is to make you feel something, there are plenty of artists that have the intention of making you feel literally that. I mean, just look at Fountain by Duchamp. The "Skill" isn't in the production of the object involved, it's in the wit or thought of the artist.
- Freak_NL 8y ago
  Incidentally, it probably wasn't Marcel Duchamp who came up with that artwork, but Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven¹. 1: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/06/14/famous-urinal-fountain-is-not-by-marcel-duchamp-a1606608 https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/06/14/famous-urinal-fountain-...
  - moate 8y ago
    Oh we're not going to get into a deep dive into Dada, intention, and idea genesis. That's WAY too much to try and cover when we can't even get people to understand that they're just Stuckists who don't know what Stuckists are.
mightybyte 8y ago
I sympathize with your view (although with s/5 year old/me/). However, over the years I have come to realize that many of the things I used to think I could have done, I actually could not have...to say nothing of your 5 year old. It might look like a few apparently random splotches of paint could have been put there by you, but in many cases looks are deceiving. You might watch a grandmaster chess game and think that you could make those moves. Or perhaps you see a solution to a traveling salesman decision problem and think "it's easy to see there exists a path that short". But in both cases you're mistaken. The moves you would have played wouldn't be as good as the grandmaster's. The path you would find wouldn't be as short. And the paint splotches you would throw on the canvas wouldn't look as compelling. Yes, there does exist shitty "art"--things that you or your 5 year old could have done. But I suspect it's less common than you think.
- yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
  I thought they'd actually done blinded studies that showed an inability to distinguish between "real" art and amateur attempts?
tuxxy 8y ago
This is what some people who don't understand any art history say about art. You can often hear this with statements like, "Picasso just drew cubes! Anyone can do that!"
- skookumchuck 8y ago
  I saw one in a museum where the canvas was simply painted a solid color. Yes, anyone can do that. There was a guard near it, too, watching me, making sure I didn't approach closer than a line taped on the floor. I could almost hear the artist laughing at the gullibility of the modern art patrons.
skookumchuck 8y ago
My definition of art is something that myself, a no-talent hack, could not do in a weekend. Art really ought to take some non-ordinary non-trivial skills to produce. Otherwise, there is simply nothing special about it. It's just like nice furniture. I could saw up some lumber and nail it together, but nobody would ever look at it and throw money at me. Nice furniture takes years of learning to figure out how to make it.

So sad these people are down voting you. IMNSHO if most 5 year old can do it, it's not art. If you insist it is art, fine, it is very shitty art. Very good confidence trick though!

moate 8y ago

If the intention of art is to make you feel something, there are plenty of artists that have the intention of making you feel literally that. I mean, just look at Fountain by Duchamp. The "Skill" isn't in the production of the object involved, it's in the wit or thought of the artist.

Freak_NL 8y ago
Incidentally, it probably wasn't Marcel Duchamp who came up with that artwork, but Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven¹. 1: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/06/14/famous-urinal-fountain-is-not-by-marcel-duchamp-a1606608 https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/06/14/famous-urinal-fountain-...
- moate 8y ago
  Oh we're not going to get into a deep dive into Dada, intention, and idea genesis. That's WAY too much to try and cover when we can't even get people to understand that they're just Stuckists who don't know what Stuckists are.

mightybyte 8y ago

I sympathize with your view (although with s/5 year old/me/). However, over the years I have come to realize that many of the things I used to think I could have done, I actually could not have...to say nothing of your 5 year old. It might look like a few apparently random splotches of paint could have been put there by you, but in many cases looks are deceiving. You might watch a grandmaster chess game and think that you could make those moves. Or perhaps you see a solution to a traveling salesman decision problem and think "it's easy to see there exists a path that short". But in both cases you're mistaken. The moves you would have played wouldn't be as good as the grandmaster's. The path you would find wouldn't be as short. And the paint splotches you would throw on the canvas wouldn't look as compelling. Yes, there does exist shitty "art"--things that you or your 5 year old could have done. But I suspect it's less common than you think.

yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
I thought they'd actually done blinded studies that showed an inability to distinguish between "real" art and amateur attempts?

tuxxy 8y ago

This is what some people who don't understand any art history say about art. You can often hear this with statements like, "Picasso just drew cubes! Anyone can do that!"

skookumchuck 8y ago
I saw one in a museum where the canvas was simply painted a solid color. Yes, anyone can do that. There was a guard near it, too, watching me, making sure I didn't approach closer than a line taped on the floor. I could almost hear the artist laughing at the gullibility of the modern art patrons.

skookumchuck 8y ago

My definition of art is something that myself, a no-talent hack, could not do in a weekend. Art really ought to take some non-ordinary non-trivial skills to produce. Otherwise, there is simply nothing special about it. It's just like nice furniture. I could saw up some lumber and nail it together, but nobody would ever look at it and throw money at me. Nice furniture takes years of learning to figure out how to make it.