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I’ll do the spin: - Healthiest city in North America [1] - Montréal posts best job growth in 2017 among top 20 largest urban centers in Canada and the U.S. [2

by moltar 8y ago

I’ll do the spin: - Healthiest city in North America [1] - Montréal posts best job growth in 2017 among top 20 largest urban centers in Canada and the U.S. [2] - Lowest unemployment rate since 2001 [3] - Montréal is 2nd global artificial intelligence hub [4] [1] https://www.spotahome.com/healthiest-cities-world https://www.spotahome.com/healthiest-cities-world [2] http://www.montrealinternational.com/en/blog/montreal-posts-best-job-growth-in-2017-among-top-20-largest-urban-centers-in-canada-and-the-u-s/ http://www.montrealinternational.com/en/blog/montreal-posts-... [3] https://montrealgazette.com/business/montreals-unemployment-rate-reaches-record-low-in-december https://montrealgazette.com/business/montreals-unemployment-... [4] http://www.montrealinternational.com/en/news/2017/11/montreal-is-2nd-global-artificial-intelligence-hub/ http://www.montrealinternational.com/en/news/2017/11/montrea...

sonnyblarney 8y ago
I'm a Montreal, this is pure spin. The 'low unemployment' bit is funny considering how many underemployed, homeless and in betweens there are. I don't remotely buy it. The economy in Montreal is reasonable but soft. I guess compared to itself in 2001? The AI hub is correct for now, that might change.
- davidy123 8y ago
  Can you quote any hard references, like the post you're replying to? Using your anecdotal method, I can say Montreal has a culture that doesn't expect everyone to simply be job focused, which you may interpret in your own way, but there is a lot of support for low key lifestyles (low cost childcare, co-op ateliers in every neighbourhood, etc) and the cost of living is quite low. Regardless, the economy is doing well, unemployment is low and the homeless population is average for Canada. Large parts of Montreal may be inscrutable to people who don't speak french well (like me) but it's still a great place to live, IMO.
- tomsun 8y ago
  I think if you can get a decent tech job and if you speak French. Montreal is definitely a better pick than Toronto.
  - sonnyblarney 8y ago
    If by 'better pick' you mean almost 1/2 salary. I've lived here for quite some time and grew up in Toronto. I've lived in the Valley and around the world, I'm acquainted with most issues.
    - moltar 8y ago
      1/2 salary of Toronto? No way! Montréal salaries are lower, but by 15-20% max. Yet you can buy a condo with a parking spot, in a central location for $220. The cost of living is much lower than Toronto. I’ve lived in Ottawa, Toronto and now Montreal. Montreal is by far more affordable than the other 2.
  - moltar 8y ago
    You can easily get a job without French. I know 2 shops that can’t fill positions even with competitive (for Montreal) salaries. One is all English (Wordpress, magneto shop) and the other is large international org. The international org couldn’t even fill the secretary role for 6 month. They ended up getting a student fresh of the school without experience. I’m constantly getting bombarded with recruiters with good offers.

by moltar 8y ago

sonnyblarney 8y ago

I'm a Montreal, this is pure spin. The 'low unemployment' bit is funny considering how many underemployed, homeless and in betweens there are. I don't remotely buy it. The economy in Montreal is reasonable but soft. I guess compared to itself in 2001? The AI hub is correct for now, that might change.

davidy123 8y ago
Can you quote any hard references, like the post you're replying to? Using your anecdotal method, I can say Montreal has a culture that doesn't expect everyone to simply be job focused, which you may interpret in your own way, but there is a lot of support for low key lifestyles (low cost childcare, co-op ateliers in every neighbourhood, etc) and the cost of living is quite low. Regardless, the economy is doing well, unemployment is low and the homeless population is average for Canada. Large parts of Montreal may be inscrutable to people who don't speak french well (like me) but it's still a great place to live, IMO.
tomsun 8y ago
I think if you can get a decent tech job and if you speak French. Montreal is definitely a better pick than Toronto.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  If by 'better pick' you mean almost 1/2 salary. I've lived here for quite some time and grew up in Toronto. I've lived in the Valley and around the world, I'm acquainted with most issues.
  - moltar 8y ago
    1/2 salary of Toronto? No way! Montréal salaries are lower, but by 15-20% max. Yet you can buy a condo with a parking spot, in a central location for $220. The cost of living is much lower than Toronto. I’ve lived in Ottawa, Toronto and now Montreal. Montreal is by far more affordable than the other 2.
- moltar 8y ago
  You can easily get a job without French. I know 2 shops that can’t fill positions even with competitive (for Montreal) salaries. One is all English (Wordpress, magneto shop) and the other is large international org. The international org couldn’t even fill the secretary role for 6 month. They ended up getting a student fresh of the school without experience. I’m constantly getting bombarded with recruiters with good offers.