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Now let's get this down to earth. You're walking outside, it's dark, you get catcalled by a passerby. What's next? Do you pull out your phone and call the polic
by xtrapolate 8y ago
Now let's get this down to earth. You're walking outside, it's dark, you get catcalled by a passerby. What's next? Do you pull out your phone and call the police? Try and take a picture of the person catcalling you? Where's your evidence? By the time you're done reaching for your pocket, that other person is long gone. That is to say, we now have a new law which is incredibly difficult to enforce, so what's the point exactly?
Why don't we tackle problematic social phenomena through education instead?
- maym86 8y agoDid you watch the video in the article? If there's no evidence there won't be a fine.
- xarball 8y agoI don't think the video depicts any need for a new law. Harassment already has laws. But I think what happened in the video was clearly a step up from that, and would fall under criminal assault. Not sure what the woman in the video expects to get done by pushing for more change. Everybody at that restaurant stopped eating. A man in a white shirt grabs a chair to defend the woman. I counted at least 3-4 ready to jump in after him. All pedestrians stopped. There was more than enough evidence to perform a citizen's arrest (assuming that's legal in France?) To me this is an indication that the current laws are working fine. They may not be heaven, but they are effective at curbing any immediate danger as best can be afforded without treading on other public freedoms (i.e. the freedom to express oneself!)
- maym86 8y agoThe video depicts an example where no one needed to pull out their phone to catch the incident. That was the point.
- joelbluminator 8y agoI head stories of women being harassed daily on the same route to and from work. It's probably being done by the same guys. If the police really wanted to, of course they could stop this..just like sexual harassment in the workplace barely ever happens anymore.
- readittwice 8y agoI know women that have to endure that almost every day, but the police can't do anything about that. The police can't be everywhere and even if they would there is not much they can do if people approach women by saying something like "hey beautiful woman".