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Calorie counting empirically doesn't work. Read the article and study you posted. It doesn't show that, it just shows that you can lose weight without using t

Calorie counting empirically doesn't work. Read the article and study you posted. It doesn't show that, it just shows that you can lose weight without using the calorie counting technique. Objective: To determine the effect of a healthy low-fat (HLF) diet vs a healthy low-carbohydrate (HLC) diet on weight change and if genotype pattern or insulin secretion are related to the dietary effects on weight loss. Findings: ...weight change over 12 months was not significantly different for participants in the HLF diet group (−5.3 kg) vs the HLC diet group (−6.0 kg), and there was no significant diet-genotype interaction or diet-insulin interaction with 12-month weight loss. A study on low fat vs low carb diets has got absolutely nothing to do with calorie counting.

amasad 8y ago
You said "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat" for which research shows that: a) people on caloric deficit almost always gain the weight back b) people can lose weight without calorie counting
- mehwoot 8y ago
  people can lose weight without calorie counting I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it. Like I said, If you can do that without tracking it, cool
  - amasad 8y ago
    > I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it You did. If you're walking back on it then ok, but don't lie straight to my face: "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat" > If you can do that without tracking it, cool You can too.
    - mehwoot 8y ago
      moderate != calorie counting. I said we have a failure to moderate what we eat, not we have a failure to calorie count. Nor did I say it's the only way to lose weight. You can too. Since I'm at 12% body fat, no, I probably couldn't, and I shouldn't

amasad 8y ago

You said "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat" for which research shows that: a) people on caloric deficit almost always gain the weight back b) people can lose weight without calorie counting

mehwoot 8y ago
people can lose weight without calorie counting I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it. Like I said, If you can do that without tracking it, cool
- amasad 8y ago
  > I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it You did. If you're walking back on it then ok, but don't lie straight to my face: "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat" > If you can do that without tracking it, cool You can too.
  - mehwoot 8y ago
    moderate != calorie counting. I said we have a failure to moderate what we eat, not we have a failure to calorie count. Nor did I say it's the only way to lose weight. You can too. Since I'm at 12% body fat, no, I probably couldn't, and I shouldn't