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like when you go to the bathroom, how much sex you have, and perhaps how many breaths a day you take. If roughly two thirds of the population were at risk of s

like when you go to the bathroom, how much sex you have, and perhaps how many breaths a day you take. If roughly two thirds of the population were at risk of serious health complications from doing any of those things too much, then we would.

amasad 8y ago
Surely there are health complications with all of those things from bowel issues, to STDS, to lung cancer.
- mehwoot 8y ago
  You really think those are a) as widespread as obesity b) caused by ways that tracking the number of times you go to the bathroom, have sex or breathe would fix? Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat. It's not really that crazy. If you can do that without tracking it, cool, but its pretty damn clear a lot of people can't.
  - amasad 8y ago
    >Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat. It's not really that crazy. If you can do that without tracking it, cool, but its pretty damn clear a lot of people can't. Actually research shows that people who watch WHAT the eat vs how much they eat lose the weight and keep it off. Calorie counting empirically doesn't work. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/well/eat/counting-calories-weight-loss-diet-dieting-low-carb-low-fat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/well/eat/counting-calorie...
    - mehwoot 8y ago
      Calorie counting empirically doesn't work. Read the article and study you posted. It doesn't show that, it just shows that you can lose weight without using the calorie counting technique. Objective: To determine the effect of a healthy low-fat (HLF) diet vs a healthy low-carbohydrate (HLC) diet on weight change and if genotype pattern or insulin secretion are related to the dietary effects on weight loss. Findings: ...weight change over 12 months was not significantly different for participants in the HLF diet group (−5.3 kg) vs the HLC diet group (−6.0 kg), and there was no significant diet-genotype interaction or diet-insulin interaction with 12-month weight loss. A study on low fat vs low carb diets has got absolutely nothing to do with calorie counting.
      - amasad 8y ago
        You said "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat" for which research shows that: a) people on caloric deficit almost always gain the weight back b) people can lose weight without calorie counting
        mehwoot 8y ago
        people can lose weight without calorie counting I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it. Like I said, If you can do that without tracking it, cool
        amasad 8y ago
        > I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it You did. If you're walking back on it then ok, but don't lie straight to my face: "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat" > If you can do that without tracking it, cool You can too.
        mehwoot 8y ago
        moderate != calorie counting. I said we have a failure to moderate what we eat, not we have a failure to calorie count. Nor did I say it's the only way to lose weight. You can too. Since I'm at 12% body fat, no, I probably couldn't, and I shouldn't

amasad 8y ago

Surely there are health complications with all of those things from bowel issues, to STDS, to lung cancer.

mehwoot 8y ago
You really think those are a) as widespread as obesity b) caused by ways that tracking the number of times you go to the bathroom, have sex or breathe would fix? Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat. It's not really that crazy. If you can do that without tracking it, cool, but its pretty damn clear a lot of people can't.
- amasad 8y ago
  >Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat. It's not really that crazy. If you can do that without tracking it, cool, but its pretty damn clear a lot of people can't. Actually research shows that people who watch WHAT the eat vs how much they eat lose the weight and keep it off. Calorie counting empirically doesn't work. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/well/eat/counting-calories-weight-loss-diet-dieting-low-carb-low-fat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/well/eat/counting-calorie...
  - mehwoot 8y ago
    Calorie counting empirically doesn't work. Read the article and study you posted. It doesn't show that, it just shows that you can lose weight without using the calorie counting technique. Objective: To determine the effect of a healthy low-fat (HLF) diet vs a healthy low-carbohydrate (HLC) diet on weight change and if genotype pattern or insulin secretion are related to the dietary effects on weight loss. Findings: ...weight change over 12 months was not significantly different for participants in the HLF diet group (−5.3 kg) vs the HLC diet group (−6.0 kg), and there was no significant diet-genotype interaction or diet-insulin interaction with 12-month weight loss. A study on low fat vs low carb diets has got absolutely nothing to do with calorie counting.
    - amasad 8y ago
      You said "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat, so yes, some of us track how much we eat" for which research shows that: a) people on caloric deficit almost always gain the weight back b) people can lose weight without calorie counting
      - mehwoot 8y ago
        people can lose weight without calorie counting I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it. Like I said, If you can do that without tracking it, cool
        amasad 8y ago
        > I didn't say people can't lose weight without calorie counting, just that some of us do use it You did. If you're walking back on it then ok, but don't lie straight to my face: "Obesity is directly caused by a failure to moderate how much we eat" > If you can do that without tracking it, cool You can too.
        mehwoot 8y ago
        moderate != calorie counting. I said we have a failure to moderate what we eat, not we have a failure to calorie count. Nor did I say it's the only way to lose weight. You can too. Since I'm at 12% body fat, no, I probably couldn't, and I shouldn't