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When I was a student I didn't care about the ban in class - seemed reasonable to me and generally fair. The rules that bothered me were the ones I thought were
by fossuser 8y ago
When I was a student I didn't care about the ban in class - seemed reasonable to me and generally fair.
The rules that bothered me were the ones I thought were unfair or didn't make sense - not being able to use the phone in the hallway or between classes to call a parent/organize something later in the day. We had teachers that would grab it out of your hand and take it from you.
Our school also had an 'upstairway' and a 'downstairway' though where you'd get yelled out for going down the upstair way and have to lap the building to get to the downstairway though so they weren't really about reason.
- magnetic 8y ago> Our school also had an 'upstairway' and a 'downstairway' though where you'd get yelled out for going down the upstair way and have to lap the building to get to the downstairway though so they weren't really about reason. It may seem like no reason to you, but I've witnessed a much higher flow of people when the direction is set and nobody goes "against the current". This is one mistake I made the first time I went to Japan: I was going "against the current" at the train station and clueless me was wondering why it was taking so much effort for me to make progress... Even entrances to some public bathrooms now have a divider that splits people entering from people exiting (you can see this at airports sometimes).
- fossuser 8y agoYeah but when you have 3min to get to your next class (or you get detention), you can't run, hallways are crowded, and you have to walk across the building to get to your class that's right downstairs it feels a bit kafkaesque. We also weren't allowed to talk during lunch for half of it.
- lostlogin 8y ago> We also weren't allowed to talk during lunch for half of it. You’re giving me ideas - a child who likes to chat and isn’t particularly interested in food can draw out a meal for an eternity.
- peterwwillis 8y ago> not being able to use the phone in the hallway or between classes I was confused about some of these, like a teacher literally posted at the bathroom door and would only let X kids in at a time, and time them. Turns out it's because a few bad kids take advantage and do stupid shit, so they have to impose draconian policies. The 'no phone in hallway' thing was probably half to get kids into class on time, and half to stop drug deals, gang fights and sexting. This goes on in "nice" schools.
- fossuser 8y agoI suspect you're right that they had some reason behind it they never discussed with us (and couldn't provide when asked), but it's not very effective (drug deals and sexting still happen anyway) - meanwhile I felt like they had no respect for us and so I had little for them as a result. I think to some extent people rise to the standard expected of them - if you don't respect kids at all and have draconian rules that prevent them from doing basic things they'll just dismiss you as an obstacle.
- peterwwillis 8y agoI feel the same. Unfortunately, the teachers are told what to do by the principal, and the principal is told what to do by the parents and the school board, and both of those groups are comprised mostly of total jackasses.