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Their walled garden approach is looking smarter and smarter with every EU fine that gets thrown at Google. As an aside: As an engineer, I dislike their walled

Their walled garden approach is looking smarter and smarter with every EU fine that gets thrown at Google. As an aside: As an engineer, I dislike their walled garden approach; but I love their approach as a consumer. To be frank, most companies have bad taste and poor UX design. Apple doesn't knock it out the park all the time, but their products are consistently good and their design guidelines for iOS apps enforce some of the same quality. So yeah, I'll take a walled garden approach if the garden is beautiful.

kodablah 8y ago
> but I love their approach as a consumer. Quite often anti-competitive actions are beneficial to customers at the expense of other companies.
- bepotts 8y ago
  I'm starting to see a lot of people charging Facebook/Apple/Google/Amazon with anti-competitive behavior, and yet most of the charges (including a lot of the ones the EU charges Google and Apple for) are just normal business behavior. Nobody cares about whether your smaller firm can compete against larger companies or not. As a consumer, I don't give a damn if Apple is "mean" to your business. Learn to compete better. If these companies are stopping a better product from coming to the market then by all means lets throw antitrust at them; but if your product is just a clone and/or lower quality product that cannot get users, nobody cares. Sorry, but learn to compete.
  - kodablah 8y ago
    While I might agree in general (or at the least for consistent application), my point was that often things that help you hurt others. What the law considers anti-competitive and what I consider anti-competitive are different, and I wasn't addressing the law at all. People should just be aware that their consumer choices may harm others that they cannot easily see, that's all.
  - __sr__ 8y ago
    Exactly — this. There is a major difference between what Microsoft was doing back in 90s and what Apple is doing today.

kodablah 8y ago

> but I love their approach as a consumer. Quite often anti-competitive actions are beneficial to customers at the expense of other companies.

bepotts 8y ago
I'm starting to see a lot of people charging Facebook/Apple/Google/Amazon with anti-competitive behavior, and yet most of the charges (including a lot of the ones the EU charges Google and Apple for) are just normal business behavior. Nobody cares about whether your smaller firm can compete against larger companies or not. As a consumer, I don't give a damn if Apple is "mean" to your business. Learn to compete better. If these companies are stopping a better product from coming to the market then by all means lets throw antitrust at them; but if your product is just a clone and/or lower quality product that cannot get users, nobody cares. Sorry, but learn to compete.
- kodablah 8y ago
  While I might agree in general (or at the least for consistent application), my point was that often things that help you hurt others. What the law considers anti-competitive and what I consider anti-competitive are different, and I wasn't addressing the law at all. People should just be aware that their consumer choices may harm others that they cannot easily see, that's all.
- __sr__ 8y ago
  Exactly — this. There is a major difference between what Microsoft was doing back in 90s and what Apple is doing today.