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Elon mentioned on the Q2 conference call yesterday that specific demo is easily doable. He also added that it would be sort of cheating, because that's a very

by xedeon 8y ago

Elon mentioned on the Q2 conference call yesterday that specific demo is easily doable. He also added that it would be sort of cheating, because that's a very defined route and he prefers it to be able to be much more dynamic. i.e. pick any two US cites and the car will drive you there.

gamblor956 8y ago
There are a number of routes one can take to get from LA to NY. Elon is stalling because he knows that "Autopilot" isn't capable of making the trip.
- xedeon 8y ago
  >Elon is stalling because he knows that "Autopilot" isn't capable of making the trip. I can only assume then that you have some kind of insider info to support your claim?
  - gamblor956 8y ago
    I'm not the one claiming that Autopilot is able to make a cross-country trip but delaying the test because it would be "too easy" to prove anything. If it were actually that easy, Tesla would have done it, because Musk has never passed up the chance for that sort of publicity. Ergo, logically, if Tesla has not performed such a test, it is strong evidence that Autopilot is not currently capable of passing it.
opencl 8y ago
Elon said the exact same thing in the Q4 2017 earnings call. And then said they would still do the demo in the next 3-6 months. It's been 6 months and this "easily doable" demo has still not been done. Tesla has shown zero evidence of their self driving program making any meaningful progress. http://www.autonews.com/article/20180208/MOBILITY/180209770/tesla-musk-autonomous-drive-newyork-losangeles http://www.autonews.com/article/20180208/MOBILITY/180209770/...
- xedeon 8y ago
  >Tesla has shown zero evidence of their self driving program making any meaningful progress. Google's autonomous efforts far precedes Tesla, yet they have not out in the market yet. I would say on the contrary, they made significant strides in a short amount of time even after a complete overhaul Mobileye (AP1) to an in-house solution (AP2/2.5) https://vimeo.com/192179727 https://vimeo.com/192179727
  - opencl 8y ago
    Has Tesla demonstrated any progress whatsoever since that 3 minute demo video they posted over a year and a half ago? If they were really making amazing progress they would have shown it off. Tesla LOVES showing off their tech when it's actually working, and it is often very impressive. Waymo has been operating a real actual passenger service for over a year now. They drive tens of thousands of miles a day. They're "not out in the market yet" only in the sense that they're not charging money for it yet, which they seem to plan on doing soon. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-31/inside-the-life-of-waymo-s-driverless-test-family https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-31/inside-th...
majormajor 8y ago
Is "finding roads between two arbitrary cities" the hard part of self-driving?
- teeteetech 8y ago
  I think that "using arbitrary roads" is a relatively hard part of self-driving.
- Piskvorrr 8y ago
  That's navigation, and that's actually a solved problem. Actually following the roads...oh look, that's a nice set of traffic cones. What could that possibly mean? IDK, just continue through it.

by xedeon 8y ago

gamblor956 8y ago

There are a number of routes one can take to get from LA to NY. Elon is stalling because he knows that "Autopilot" isn't capable of making the trip.

xedeon 8y ago
>Elon is stalling because he knows that "Autopilot" isn't capable of making the trip. I can only assume then that you have some kind of insider info to support your claim?
- gamblor956 8y ago
  I'm not the one claiming that Autopilot is able to make a cross-country trip but delaying the test because it would be "too easy" to prove anything. If it were actually that easy, Tesla would have done it, because Musk has never passed up the chance for that sort of publicity. Ergo, logically, if Tesla has not performed such a test, it is strong evidence that Autopilot is not currently capable of passing it.

opencl 8y ago

Elon said the exact same thing in the Q4 2017 earnings call. And then said they would still do the demo in the next 3-6 months. It's been 6 months and this "easily doable" demo has still not been done. Tesla has shown zero evidence of their self driving program making any meaningful progress. http://www.autonews.com/article/20180208/MOBILITY/180209770/tesla-musk-autonomous-drive-newyork-losangeles http://www.autonews.com/article/20180208/MOBILITY/180209770/...

xedeon 8y ago
>Tesla has shown zero evidence of their self driving program making any meaningful progress. Google's autonomous efforts far precedes Tesla, yet they have not out in the market yet. I would say on the contrary, they made significant strides in a short amount of time even after a complete overhaul Mobileye (AP1) to an in-house solution (AP2/2.5) https://vimeo.com/192179727 https://vimeo.com/192179727
- opencl 8y ago
  Has Tesla demonstrated any progress whatsoever since that 3 minute demo video they posted over a year and a half ago? If they were really making amazing progress they would have shown it off. Tesla LOVES showing off their tech when it's actually working, and it is often very impressive. Waymo has been operating a real actual passenger service for over a year now. They drive tens of thousands of miles a day. They're "not out in the market yet" only in the sense that they're not charging money for it yet, which they seem to plan on doing soon. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-31/inside-the-life-of-waymo-s-driverless-test-family https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-31/inside-th...

majormajor 8y ago

Is "finding roads between two arbitrary cities" the hard part of self-driving?

teeteetech 8y ago
I think that "using arbitrary roads" is a relatively hard part of self-driving.
Piskvorrr 8y ago
That's navigation, and that's actually a solved problem. Actually following the roads...oh look, that's a nice set of traffic cones. What could that possibly mean? IDK, just continue through it.