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The Oldest Building in Every US State
- vortico 8y agoReally cool illustrations!
- bloat 8y agoI agree. I would have liked to see photos also, but the drawings are nicely done!
- psychometry 8y agoSure, but no one wants illustrations of houses. They want photos.
- Absor 8y agoWould be interesting to see a similar list for every country in the world.
- lamper 8y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_buildings#By_age https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_buildings#By_ag... Europe's building are just a little older.
- jhbadger 8y agoWell, like the saying goes "In America they think 100 years is a long time. In Europe they think a hundred kilometers is a long distance"
- danesparza 8y agoThe oldest 'man-made structures' in America are much older: http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/19/news/mn-34091 http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/19/news/mn-34091
- JdeBP 8y agoNorth America. The other Americas have ones that still have the title of oldest, such as Sechin Bajo.
- danesparza 8y ago:-) You are absolutely correct. I also like the 'tongue-in-cheek' phrase 'the other Americas'.
- pjc50 8y agoAn interesting subset, the oldest continuously operating pubs: http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/travel/uk/britains-best-oldest-pubs-you-need-to-have-a-pint-in-11363967877778 http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/travel/uk/britains-best-oldest-... ("oldest pub in scotland" has two different disputed entries ..)
- adwww 8y agoI'm currently sat in a not particularly noteworth house in England built in 1770 that is apparently older than anything in 22 US states..! It's cool to think of former inhabitants hearing tales from the New World.
- irrational 8y ago"apparently older than anything in 22 US states" Um, you do know that in 1770 hardly anything west of the mississippi and east of the cascades was settled, right?
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- cominous 8y agoOldest building 1637. Sorry, but as a european I have to say: "Nice try" ;).
- hackathonguy 8y agoThe oldest building on the list actually dates to 1190.
- TomK32 8y agoabout when my family's house was first document, and it's just an farm belonging to the church.
- origami777 8y agoThat's pretty cool. Hopefully it's gone thru some renovations over the years.
- zaarn 8y agoThe oldest building in my city would be walls from somewhere around 0 BC. It was a rather important nexus for the Roman Army due to the geographic location. Though it's largely buried under more modern walls from around 13th century. There is also social housing, build in the 16th century by one of the top 3 wealthiest people in modern history. Still in use today, about 1€ a year rent.
- danesparza 8y agoGeorgia's is incorrect. The oldest in Georgia is the "Pirates House" in Savannah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_in_Georgia_(U.S._state) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_i...
- flother 8y agoThe article says it traces the “oldest intact building in each US state”. Wikipedia says that only a “portion of the structure [the Pirates’ House] was built in 1734”. It sounds like the latter doesn’t match their definition.
- heartbreak 8y agoSame with the Jamestown church for Virginia, where only the bell tower has stood since the 17th century.
- chasing 8y agoI'm not sure what their criteria is, as the part of the Alamo in their image was started in 1744 and never actually completed. (Depending on your definition of "completed," I suppose.)
- megaman22 8y agoThe article isn't consistent, either - some of these are mentioned as having been jacked up and moved several times, whereas other claim to be the oldest building in the state on the same foundation, some are heavily reconstructed.
- dboreham 8y agoExcept the listing for Montana is a ruin.
- JoeAltmaier 8y agoWhat about native pueblos? Mound builder structures? Grottos? Historians say 'oldest building' but mean 'oldest western building'
- JoeAltmaier 8y agoTaos Pueblo for instance - built around 1000AD, still occupied. Palace of the Governors in Santa Fe - 1610. Cliff dwellings of the American Southwest - 750AD, should be top of the list in 4 states.
- spython 8y agoIf you read the article, you'll see that the pueblos are mentioned.
- JoeAltmaier 8y agoAh! I didn't scroll all the way down. Just took other comments about '1600s' and concluded, most of American History ignored again. It happens a lot. Look at any New England building claiming to be 'oldest this or that'. Yet New Mexico, Arizona, California have buildings predating them by centuries. Even boring ol Iowa has mounds (thousands originally) constructed in the 1400s.
- protomyth 8y agoWhoever did the map really did the list a disservice by putting the South Dakota site on the top. It makes you assume it was the oldest on the list.
- sizzzzlerz 8y agoWhy does the list cite Mesa Verde in Colorado yet ignores New Mexico's Chaco Canyon, which pre-dates Mesa Verde by 300 years and certainly is much older than Taos Pueblo? There are also Anasazi sites in Arizona as well that aren't quite as old as Chaco but, none-the-less, are older than the mission they list. Further, Utah has thousands of Anasazi sites from granaries to whole villages that date to the 12th and 13th century. Why didn't they make the cut? If the criteria is that the building must be intact, then Mesa Verde shouldn't be there given that it has been heavily restored from how it appeared when first discovered by Wetherill in the late 19th century.
- k__ 8y agoDidn't the natives have houses or did they just not survive the colonisation?
- frockington 8y agoA lot of the natives (at least in the NE and Midwest) did not live in shelter that were meant to last for hundreds of years. They lived in semi-temporary small buildings
- folli 8y agoThe Colorado and New Mexico buildings are from the native population.
- alistairSH 8y agoTwo indigenous structures are listed; Colorado and New Mexico both have old pueblo settlements. Many of the indigenous villages in the mid-Atlantic area were burned by the English for one reason or another. I suspect many permanent settlements elsewhere suffered similar fates.
- protomyth 8y agoSadly, all the Mandan earth lodges in the great plains are reconstructions but still worth visiting.
- codingdave 8y agoSo does Utah- Hovenweep National Monument is just inside southeastern Utah, dating from 1200-1300. I'm not sure why it wasn't listed.
- alistairSH 8y agoThe listing is "oldest intact buildings" and Hovenweep is a ruin. Though, I'd agree that the listing, as published, is a bit strange, given the Molalla Log House is also a ruin (collapsed roof).
- chrisacky 8y agoAt what point is the Delaware Block House[1] still the original building[2]? You can see the roof was replaced recently, and presumably the rendering[3].. [1]: Delaware, the Block House https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_House https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_House [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus [3]: In the episode "Heroes and Villains" (Only Fools and Horses UK Sitcom), Trigger wins an award for having owned the same broom for 20 years. He reveals that it has had 17 new heads and 14 new handles, but insists it is still the same broom.
- mannykannot 8y agoThis issue has been debated at least since the time of Heraclitus (c. 500 BCE) as "The Ship of Theseus". https://www.utne.com/mind-and-body/ship-of-theseus-identity-ze0z1311zjhar https://www.utne.com/mind-and-body/ship-of-theseus-identity-... Doh! I see now that's what reference 2 leads to.
- teekert 8y agoOMG, am I still I while all my molecules constantly replace? (Yes yes, persistent neural structure... but, persistent broom structure?)
- escapecharacter 8y agobroom?
- bloat 8y agohttp://foolsandhorses.weebly.com/triggers-broom.html http://foolsandhorses.weebly.com/triggers-broom.html
- stenl 8y agoReminds me of the Ise Jingū shrine, which has been torn down and rebuilt every 20 years for 2000 years.
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- chasing 8y agoThere's no way the Alamo is the oldest building in Texas. A cursory googlin' turns up this, for example": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_San_Juan_Capistrano_(Texas) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_San_Juan_Capistrano_(T...
- JdeBP 8y agoWhich says 1731, a few years after 1724.
- chasing 8y agoI mean, the building they use for the picture of the Alamo was built in 1744. So the whole thing's a confusing mess.
- iamjs 8y agoEspada was the first of the Spanish Missions in the region, established in 1690. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_San_Francisco_de_la_Espada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_San_Francisco_de_la_Es...
- fhood 8y agoThey were wrong for Maryland as well. There is a house in St Marys that is from at least 1670
- gt_ 8y agoThese buildings all look pristine in the photos, almost too pristine.
- ibdf 8y agoI don't know how a Personal Loans website is responsible for old building illustrations, but it worked, you made me look.
- aaronarduino 8y agoThat personal loan website is where it was originally posted. The original was posted on July 3rd compared to the ArchDaily article which was posted on July 24th. There is even a note about it at the bottom of the ArchDaily post. This article was originally published by NetCredit and has been republished with permission. Original: https://www.netcredit.com/blog/oldest-building-in-every-us-state/ https://www.netcredit.com/blog/oldest-building-in-every-us-s...
- ibdf 8y agoThanks. I missed that note.
- neilwilson 8y agoIt's always amusing to find out what Americans think is old. Most of the buildings around here are mid to late Victorian with the odd Elizabethan dwelling sitting about two feet lower than anywhere else. The church is 900 years old with the present building dating from 1483. I chuckle when I realise we have public conveniences here in the UK that are older than Canada.
- RandallBrown 8y agoThe oldest building in this list is from 1190. Almost 300 years older than your example.
- jrhurst 8y agoSo question. I always see statements like this online. And I sometimes wonder what is the point. Like it's a colony. The oldest structure are from societies that are all but dead. What's the value of statements like that?
- ythn 8y ago> It's always amusing to find out what Americans think is old. It's not that we "think" those buildings are old. They are the oldest. There are no older buildings. Age is relative. If you colonize a pacific island, the oldest building will be 1 year old. That doesn't mean the colonizers think 1 year is a long time. If you want to get into a manhood measuring contest we could broaden the criteria to include native american structures.
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- imnobody 8y agoWhy are like Cliff Dwellings not used for all states that apply? A cursory search gives me Montezuma Castle in Arizona.
- jay-anderson 8y agoI was thinking the same thing. It's an odd list. It may make sense to exclude cliff dwellings if the list should be the oldest buildings still being used. Still, old, well-made buildings are very neat even if not technically the oldest.
- imnobody 8y agoWell what's weird is that they have Mesa Verde for Colorado. So they're not excluded.
- burlesona 8y agoNeat post, but I was disappointed to see cartoons instead of photos of the buildings.
- jcroll 8y agoYou can't even copy and paste the building's name to do a google search
- amyjess 8y agoI was hoping there would be Google Maps links for some of these, so I could look them up in Street View. Unfortunately, typing the names of some of these buildings into Google Maps doesn't work.
- xs 8y agoIn many of these states there are still buildings that were made by native Americans far before the ones listed.
- gist 8y agoNew Jersey log cabin, for sale for $2,900,000: https://www.weichert.com/73240434/ https://www.weichert.com/73240434/
- dboreham 8y agoHawaii seems wrong: there are fort like structures still standing that are obviously hundreds of years old.
- 8bitsrule 8y agoIn Washington State, Bellingham's "Pickett house" is "the oldest documented wooden structure on its original site in Washington.". http://www.historylink.org/File/20594 http://www.historylink.org/File/20594 (The Fort Nisqually/Hudson's Bay granary was moved to Tacoma in 1934 and later 'restored'.)