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YES. Security compromise is the huge achilles heel of self-driving cars - and anything that is algorithmically controlled. When you have 100,000 self-driving c
by mhneu 8y ago
YES. Security compromise is the huge achilles heel of self-driving cars - and anything that is algorithmically controlled.
When you have 100,000 self-driving cars on the road, and someone figures out how to hack them, and drive them simultaneously into crowds, that will be a BIG BIG problem.
And this problem isn't just about self-driving cars. It is a fundamental issue with all algorithms. It's a lot harder to hack humans to do bad things (although it can be done with sustained messaging and propaganda). But algorithms can be compromised and exploited.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago> It's a lot harder to hack humans to do bad things I'd say, it's probably easier to hack individual humans, but - like everything in computing - hacking algorithms scales well, while human factors generally don't.
- mhneu 8y agoA thoughtful point.
- Shivetya 8y agoLet us not also forget, we also want to prevent governments from having the ability to shut down them down as well. While there may be a need to disable a car in a chase or such I am against the idea of wholesale shutting down a highway full of cars or similar scenarios.
- 27182818284 8y agoHas a flight ever been brought down through a cyberattack? I've heard a lot of concern over that over the years, but (thank goodness) I don't recall any news of an actual flight being brought down.
- tjoff 8y agoIt has already been demonstrated non-self-driving cars. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33650491 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33650491
- gamblor956 8y agoPilots have the ability to manually disengage airplane autopilots, and more importantly the time to do so (on the order of minutes). It's very different in a car, where the difference between life and death can be a split-second reaction.
- mrguyorama 8y agoThe difference is the massive amounts of regulations concerning flight systems.
- 3pt14159 8y agoThere are multiple safeguards for planes that don't work for self-driving cars. First, they're not physically inspectable by every Tom, Dick, and Harry. This means it's easier to obscure interfaces and other potential areas of attack. Not state-actor proof, but probably ISIS-proof. Second, they only get software updates while parked at an airport, so it makes MITM attacks harder (though not impossible). Third, they're in the air where death isn't a sudden movement away. Pilots can override the system and fly it manually. Fourth, they're heavily monitored with errant flightpaths reported to militaries around the world (to stop another 9/11). We have none of these safeguards for self-driving cars and there are going to be hundreds of millions of them.
- goodmachine 8y agoNot in-flight as far as we know, but a Boeing 757 was hacked in a proof of concept attack on the tarmac quite recently https://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/3020901/dhs-team-manages-to-hack-boeing-757 https://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/3020901/dhs-team-manage...