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> “In reality, the ban has already been made. I don’t know a single teacher in this country that allows the use of phones in class.” Not allowing kids to use s

> “In reality, the ban has already been made. I don’t know a single teacher in this country that allows the use of phones in class.” Not allowing kids to use smartphones during class is a huge difference than not allowing them at all in school. Cell phones are huge part of people's lives, whether they like it or not.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> Not allowing kids to use smartphones during class is a huge difference than not allowing them at all in school Learning how to put down their phones while socializing and working will probably be more valuable to these students, in the long run, than scoring a few extra minutes of Instagram. It isn't like they can't use their phones once off campus.
- waterhouse 8y ago
  > Learning how to put down their phones while socializing and working How many years do kids spend in school? And how long do you think it takes to learn how to do that? Surely not more than one year. Arguments of the form "They need to learn how to behave in later life, therefore they should spend 12 years behaving that way" are wrong. (The conclusion may be correct, but the reasoning is not.) Given that it takes only x years to learn that, the question is whether it's worth having them behave that way in the remaining 12-x years.
xexers 8y ago
So why not use a dumb phone as a cell; They're cheaper too!
gaius 8y ago
Cell phones are huge part of people's lives, whether they like it or not. The generation that invented smartphones did not have smartphones in class
themagician 8y ago
They don’t have to be a big part of your life. Let the battery die on Friday night and don’t pick it up again until Monday morning. You might be surprised how you spend your time and how much more of it you appear to have.
kolinko 8y ago
If all their peers are banned from using phones as well, there won't be much happening on social media during school hours - so nothing lost there.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> Not allowing kids to use smartphones during class is a huge difference than not allowing them at all in school Learning how to put down their phones while socializing and working will probably be more valuable to these students, in the long run, than scoring a few extra minutes of Instagram. It isn't like they can't use their phones once off campus.

waterhouse 8y ago
> Learning how to put down their phones while socializing and working How many years do kids spend in school? And how long do you think it takes to learn how to do that? Surely not more than one year. Arguments of the form "They need to learn how to behave in later life, therefore they should spend 12 years behaving that way" are wrong. (The conclusion may be correct, but the reasoning is not.) Given that it takes only x years to learn that, the question is whether it's worth having them behave that way in the remaining 12-x years.

xexers 8y ago

So why not use a dumb phone as a cell; They're cheaper too!

gaius 8y ago

Cell phones are huge part of people's lives, whether they like it or not. The generation that invented smartphones did not have smartphones in class

themagician 8y ago

They don’t have to be a big part of your life. Let the battery die on Friday night and don’t pick it up again until Monday morning. You might be surprised how you spend your time and how much more of it you appear to have.

kolinko 8y ago

If all their peers are banned from using phones as well, there won't be much happening on social media during school hours - so nothing lost there.