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Surprised they weren't banned already. How can a teacher droning about valence levels possibly compete with instagram feeds, and much more so for younger kids.

Surprised they weren't banned already. How can a teacher droning about valence levels possibly compete with instagram feeds, and much more so for younger kids. Possibly even, aspects of smartphone use should be treated as a potential health risk, in the same ways as alcohol, tobacco, sugar, etc. (though not all of those are treated appropriately yet)

JeanMarcS 8y ago
Actually there was already a law from 2010, which was stricter than the new one and, therefore, not applied in any school. This one is lighter in the way that now, the phone can be used outside teaching hours (so between lessons) and on certain events (like museum visits or sports event during school time) And as always in France, it’s a law above a law above another law, etc... But French president Macron was very proud of it, so bravo...
kehrlann 8y ago
There was no law about this but school staff sometimes enforced it anyway.
antpls 8y ago
To me, banning smartphones at school is an urgent measure taken to face a fundamental, but misunderstood, change in society. Why not use smartphones to improve education rather than seeing it like a threat? My guess is that 1) most teachers have no idea how to teach using smartphones, and 2) the new digital economy is threatening the job of teachers.
Shivetya 8y ago
Well I am curious how much effort will be put into it. In the US local governments cannot even keep cell phones out of prisons, the State of Georgia was confiscating over ten thousand phones per year. With regards to children in school we need to just start early and teach them that not using one in class is being courteous to their teachers and others while at the same time perhaps offering them more time between classes to check their phones. It is just a matter of showing them how it should be done and rewarding proper behavior.
andai 8y ago
Re: sugar in schools: I am currently trying to break a sugar addiction and having more trouble than I had coming off several types of addictive drugs.
- malnourish 8y ago
  I've always wondered about this: How much is that a problem with letting go of sugar, and how much is it finding things that don't have sugar in them?
  - berbec 8y ago
    When I quit drinking, (1L vodka/day for years cold turkey), I craved sugar like nothing else in the world. If removing sugar from your diet is anything like getting sober, I feel GP's pain.
    - andai 8y ago
      This is interesting. I did some quick googling, heavy drinking interferes with insulin, maintenance of blood sugar levels. > Frequent heavy drinkers can wipe out their energy storage in a few hours. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/312918.php https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/312918.php
  - Jach 8y ago
    Eggs and cheese are pretty easy to find so that can't be it. Plus if you've done a keto diet (I assume that's what is meant by getting over a "sugar addiction") for a length of time, the cravings are real, and sometimes interesting (e.g. craving things you haven't had or thought about for years even pre-diet). I think most people who have trouble getting on and sticking with a keto diet are more addicted to easy-access food variety rather than particular foods. They'll succumb to the easy-to-order pizza delivery in larger part due to its easy-to-order and being-something-different properties rather than the craving for pizza/sugar itself being too strong. Keto is easy if you don't mind the monotony of the same easy-access food for almost every meal, or enjoy cooking enough to make a large variety of food. If you do mind, that'll probably have to go first, sugar or no sugar.

JeanMarcS 8y ago

Actually there was already a law from 2010, which was stricter than the new one and, therefore, not applied in any school. This one is lighter in the way that now, the phone can be used outside teaching hours (so between lessons) and on certain events (like museum visits or sports event during school time) And as always in France, it’s a law above a law above another law, etc... But French president Macron was very proud of it, so bravo...

kehrlann 8y ago

There was no law about this but school staff sometimes enforced it anyway.

antpls 8y ago

To me, banning smartphones at school is an urgent measure taken to face a fundamental, but misunderstood, change in society. Why not use smartphones to improve education rather than seeing it like a threat? My guess is that 1) most teachers have no idea how to teach using smartphones, and 2) the new digital economy is threatening the job of teachers.

Shivetya 8y ago

Well I am curious how much effort will be put into it. In the US local governments cannot even keep cell phones out of prisons, the State of Georgia was confiscating over ten thousand phones per year. With regards to children in school we need to just start early and teach them that not using one in class is being courteous to their teachers and others while at the same time perhaps offering them more time between classes to check their phones. It is just a matter of showing them how it should be done and rewarding proper behavior.

andai 8y ago

Re: sugar in schools: I am currently trying to break a sugar addiction and having more trouble than I had coming off several types of addictive drugs.

malnourish 8y ago
I've always wondered about this: How much is that a problem with letting go of sugar, and how much is it finding things that don't have sugar in them?
- berbec 8y ago
  When I quit drinking, (1L vodka/day for years cold turkey), I craved sugar like nothing else in the world. If removing sugar from your diet is anything like getting sober, I feel GP's pain.
  - andai 8y ago
    This is interesting. I did some quick googling, heavy drinking interferes with insulin, maintenance of blood sugar levels. > Frequent heavy drinkers can wipe out their energy storage in a few hours. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/312918.php https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/312918.php
- Jach 8y ago
  Eggs and cheese are pretty easy to find so that can't be it. Plus if you've done a keto diet (I assume that's what is meant by getting over a "sugar addiction") for a length of time, the cravings are real, and sometimes interesting (e.g. craving things you haven't had or thought about for years even pre-diet). I think most people who have trouble getting on and sticking with a keto diet are more addicted to easy-access food variety rather than particular foods. They'll succumb to the easy-to-order pizza delivery in larger part due to its easy-to-order and being-something-different properties rather than the craving for pizza/sugar itself being too strong. Keto is easy if you don't mind the monotony of the same easy-access food for almost every meal, or enjoy cooking enough to make a large variety of food. If you do mind, that'll probably have to go first, sugar or no sugar.