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CCleaner v5.45 Introduces Data Collection with No Way to Opt-Out
- craftyguy 8y agoDoes this mean ccleaner will remove itself as it is now crap? (IIRC the original name was 'crap cleaner')
- canada_dry 8y agoThis BS is why I moved to linux several years ago... no more CCleaner, no more Malwarebytes, no MCAFEE, no forced updates, no forced telemetry...
- overcast 8y agoYou forgot no more desktop software, and no more games.
- wwhitlow 8y agoWhat are you talking about?!? I have to say that is a pretty poor argument. No the gaming industry has not moved to adopt Linux as a platform but that is largely in the AAA games which barely seem to give Windows the time of day as well. No more desktop software?!? What are you looking for in desktop software? The open source alternatives to Microsoft Office are not as nice to put it lightly but there is still enough desktop applications that aren't trapped in the terminal. Yes I still would more so recommend Linux to people that are comfortable with the idea of running things in the terminal and expecting more text based interfaces, but the software does exist.
- overcast 8y agoI'm looking for Capture One for editing photos, Final Cut Pro for editing video, Unibox for Mail, Office Applications, 1profiler for color management(i don't want to use displaycal), the vast majority of games. AMD video card support. Those are some off the top of my head. I use every OS under the sun for various aspects of my life. Linux is not a desktop OS.
- wwhitlow 8y agoAlright fair I'll admit I barely touch any editing tools and I only have a laptop to run Linux on right now so I personally enjoy it tremendously. Apologies for letting emotions boil over.
- foepys 8y ago> AMD video card support. Please pick stuff that is actually not available on Linux if you do those kind of lists. AMD is providing FLOSS drivers to the Linux kernel and mesa for years now.
- scopecreep 8y agoI think you mean to say "Valve has been paying developers to fix the AMD drivers for years now, since AMD can't be bothered."
- pjmlp 8y agoYes and the new drivers let the owners of older cards start wondering to buy NVidia instead.
- paavoova 8y agoAll proprietary tools whose developers have chosen not to support Linux and you have chosen to become dependent on.
- Arzh 8y agoAlso tools that linux developers don't care enough to make good.
- mackal 8y agoLol, AMD GPU support is great under Linux.
- pjmlp 8y agoNot when using a Brazos APU.
- phobosdeimos 8y agoI am happy for everyone who is enjoying Linux but can we give windows the credit it is due? If anyone ever makes an OS that has the game and driver support Windows has I will jump ship in a heartbeat. Case in point ccleaner: there are many alternatives. Try winutilities. http://www.pcclean.io/winutilities-pro/ http://www.pcclean.io/winutilities-pro/
- jakebasile 8y ago> AAA games which barely seem to give Windows the time of day This was briefly true in the mid-2000s, but this is no longer the case. PC is resurgent and pretty much every non-Japanese, non-first party Sony/Nintendo game comes to Windows now, and it usually plays pretty well. Even the Japanese publishers are starting to release more and more on PC (see Sega).
- sp332 8y agoI just checked my games libraries. 16/27 (59%) itch.io games and 75/146 (51%) on Steam support Linux. It's not exactly a niche platform anymore. Edit: Humble Bundle, 84 Linux games. I don't know how to filter to only "games" to get a total though.
- overcast 8y agoAll that shows is that your library consists of mainly indie games. I agree it's making strides, but big name games are just not supported in any reasonable percentage. Why would they? The Linux gaming user base is minuscule.
- craftyguy 8y agoI consider the fact that Call of Duty 9001, Madden <insert current year here>, and Far Cry Whatever are not available on Linux a feature, not a detriment.
- sp332 8y agoWell nobody tell craftyguy, but Far Cry (the GoG version), Far Cry 2, Far Cry 3, and Far Cry Blood Dragon (the Uplay non-Steam version), Call of Duty, CoD 2, CoD 4 Modern Warfare, and MW 2 have Platinum ratings on Wine at least.
- kjeetgill 8y agoReally? In what way is fewer options at all feature. It's not like it "leaves room for the little guys". It just proves theres no market for anyone.
- craftyguy 8y ago> It just proves theres no market for anyone No, it just proves there's no market for people who obsess over shitty games. There are plenty of good games with native linux support (e.g. Civ 5, Mount & Blade, Crusader Kings 2, etc etc).
- agumonkey 8y agoM-x snake
- SenpaiSilver 8y agoCCleaner isn't bundle with Windows so you could choose to not install it. It's not really needed anyway.
- qplex 8y agoBut you cannot really opt out from Windows telemetry.
- pjmlp 8y agoYou still have more configuration knobs than on Google's OSes.
- wildrhythms 8y agoWhat does Android/ChromeOS have to do with this? Mac OS X is the most comparable and it lets you disable reporting on first setup (not buried deep within one of two different control panels). And if you really wanted to compare it to Android/ChromeOS, consider that Windows is still $120-200 for a license and still silently tracks out of the box. That just doesn't seem right. How much more do I need to pay to turn off being tracked?
- pjmlp 8y agoThe Windows licenses only matter when buying a Windows DVD without computer, they barely reflect on the whole computer price. In fact in some stores that sell computers with FreeDos or Linux, the models tend to be more expensive than those with Windows. ChromeOS by being a browser based OS, means all applications run in someone else's computer, no way to turn tracking off other than not using ChromeOS at all. Likewise, what each Android model allows to turn off and what gets tracked depends pretty much on how each OEM has customized their Android version.
- itscompiling 8y agoIs there something malicious about Malwarebytes now?
- agumonkey 8y agosomething shallow but a few machines became unusable due to MWB cpu usage
- DEADBEEFC0FFEE 8y agoThis has literally nothing to do with the OS. You're simply hijacking the thread to rant about your love for Linux.
- croshan 8y agoIt has something to do with the spirit of the developer community that makes its applications, though. You could argue they're close enough to be synonymous.
- IloveHN84 8y agoWhat a bad move..
- sahaskatta 8y agoIt's 2018. Not sure if it's really necessary to use something like CCleaner on Windows 10. The built in disk cleanup and defrag tools have been perfectly sufficient.
- saintPirelli 8y agoI agree, and so is the built in data collection.
- AdmiralAsshat 8y agoI've had one running as a nightly scheduled task on my Windows 7 laptop for about ten years. Its primary purpose was to securely erase all the stuff in my Recycle Bin as well as wipe search history, application history, etc. More of a privacy thing than a space-saving thing, really.
- accrual 8y agoI've found CCleaner convenient for clearing multiple browser histories and other caches all in one place, even if individually there is a native way to do so. I also don't usually find a pressing need to upgrade based on the change log. [0] Perhaps the negative response will encourage the developers to add a working option to disable the telemetry. For now, the previous version without data collection (v5.44) is still available on the file hosting site FileHippo. [1] [0] https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/version-history https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/version-history [1] https://filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/85770 https://filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/85770
- binomialxenon 8y agoBleachbit can do the same things, and is free software with no spying.
- Yizahi 8y agoThere was no need for this malware since Win2k. Windows installer manages pretty well and 3rd party ones too. On win7 I uninstalled amd video driver, installed nvidia driver using their own intallers and stuff simply worked, without any "cleaning". Same with other big applications, e.g. MSVS, MSOffice etc. Yes, Windows (7, 8, 10) have some curious folders that tend to fill up with something, like winsxs and Installers, but you can't just delete stuff there anyway, it is needed by OS, so malware like CCleaner won't help there.
- SketchySeaBeast 8y agoIt's not terribly surprising to see CCleaner decided to make last year's accidental malware part of the core product.
- Zaheer 8y agoAny recommendation for alternatives?
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- binomialxenon 8y agoI'm not sure exactly what your needs are, but Bleachbit seems be pretty similar in features.
- LinuxBender 8y agoI use both on my one remaining windows machine. Both tools wipe additional data that the other misses. Bleachbit gets more logs and old installers. CrapCleaner gets more registry cruft. BCWipe clears file slacks and does a better job with swap / pagefiles and old volume shadow copy snapshots. Certainly use older versions of CrapCleaner, prior to them getting malicious code installed. I don't have links to that incident, but you can find it.
- tunap 8y agoAn older vesion of CCleaner* &/or BleachBit. *Unsure of versioning, one that came before Avast bought Piriform. Additionally, all Piriform products will most likely follow suit... Defraggler, Recuva, Speccy etc.
- AdmiralAsshat 8y agoThe version of CCleaner currently on my Windows 7 PC is easily five years old at this point. I keep thinking I need to update it, but then another scandal like this happens and I just leave it alone once more.
- invalid_ 8y agoWell it is on Microsoft Windows, so users are already accustomed to a corporation collecting their data without the possibility to opt out. CCleaner is just adding to the pile..