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"We contacted the team of Google Developers Latam, to tell them what had just happened. They allowed us to apply for the next grant, which google approved, and

"We contacted the team of Google Developers Latam, to tell them what had just happened. They allowed us to apply for the next grant, which google approved, and after some meetings with them, they let us pay our bill with the grant." Makes for an interesting counterpoint to the currently popular "Google is evil" narrative. The truth is probably much more mundane: Google is an awful lot of people trying to work together to achieve a bunch of shared goals and doing an imperfect job of it. This isn't just rose-tinted: I'm quite sure they have their fair share of bad actors, and they certainly make decisions we don't all like (e.g., retiring products), but I don't think it's because the company is fundamentally evil.

cm2187 8y ago
Except that their core business is to build files on everyone of their users to sell ads... We could have a debate on whether Philip Morris is evil. I am sure most of their employees are pretty decent people.
- Grazester 8y ago
  When was the last time the consumption of a Google ad lead to cancer and the eventual death of anyone?
  - cm2187 8y ago
    > When was the last time the consumption of a Google ad lead to cancer and the eventual death of anyone? Great logic. Philip Morris is evil because they sell products that cause cancer and death. Therefore Equifax, who extorts money from people to protect them against Equifax polluting their credit rating, and who leaks their data into the wild is not evil, because Equifax doesn't cause cancer nor death!
    - Grazester 8y ago
      When was the last time Google had a data breach and leaked my social security number they didn't have and didn't use to "extort" money from me?
rafael859 8y ago
I agree with your argument, but I don't think that people are calling Google evil because they retired some products. See [0], which was resolved (I think, though I can't find a source for that) due to the fact that Google is comprised of a lot of different people, and [1], which is a fairly recent announcement that has made some people uncomfortable. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17202179 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17202179 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872
- iamforreal 8y ago
  For me, I find what they're doing with android pretty evil (disallowing manufacturers from also offering phones with alternate distros/os')

cm2187 8y ago

Except that their core business is to build files on everyone of their users to sell ads... We could have a debate on whether Philip Morris is evil. I am sure most of their employees are pretty decent people.

Grazester 8y ago
When was the last time the consumption of a Google ad lead to cancer and the eventual death of anyone?
- cm2187 8y ago
  > When was the last time the consumption of a Google ad lead to cancer and the eventual death of anyone? Great logic. Philip Morris is evil because they sell products that cause cancer and death. Therefore Equifax, who extorts money from people to protect them against Equifax polluting their credit rating, and who leaks their data into the wild is not evil, because Equifax doesn't cause cancer nor death!
  - Grazester 8y ago
    When was the last time Google had a data breach and leaked my social security number they didn't have and didn't use to "extort" money from me?

rafael859 8y ago

I agree with your argument, but I don't think that people are calling Google evil because they retired some products. See [0], which was resolved (I think, though I can't find a source for that) due to the fact that Google is comprised of a lot of different people, and [1], which is a fairly recent announcement that has made some people uncomfortable. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17202179 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17202179 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872

iamforreal 8y ago
For me, I find what they're doing with android pretty evil (disallowing manufacturers from also offering phones with alternate distros/os')