Very good points, I think I concede with "stands against abuse" and "firm ethical stance". Apple will do whatever the board and the shareholders demand. I am m

Very good points, I think I concede with "stands against abuse" and "firm ethical stance". Apple will do whatever the board and the shareholders demand. I am mixing up ethics with business motivation. Apple - Good ethics, but tied to business performance. They cannot and will not exit China or go against the grain with the Chinese authorities. Google - Sells your data to advertisers, but has good ethical stance against authorities abusing data. Google doesn't operate in China since a decade or more I believe. They've somehow convinced the shareholders.