I disagree those are strictly the same thing. I have a coworker, who largely does not listen to any argument I make; from my point of view, this is because I a

I disagree those are strictly the same thing. I have a coworker, who largely does not listen to any argument I make; from my point of view, this is because I am younger, and he perceives me as less experienced because of my age. However, other coworkers are able to deliver the same argument to him, and have him listen to that argument. In that regard, they have influence over him, whereas I do not. Yet, nobody is attempting to manipulate anybody (in the sense of lie to, or attempting to get someone to hold a belief that the manipulator does not themselves hold or knows to be unsound).